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Pat Buchanan : America's Hollow Prosperity
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | 02/15/2006 | Patrick Buchanan

Posted on 02/15/2006 10:42:45 AM PST by SirLinksalot

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To: Paul Ross

Pat is still bitter because the "True Conservative" base was barely 2% in his run for the White House.


41 posted on 02/15/2006 11:21:30 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (M.S.M. Creed: "Truth has no substance until we give it permission! ")
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I'm not sure what you mean.


42 posted on 02/15/2006 11:22:43 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Aquinasfan
Ssh, don't tell Pat that. He thinks our money will never come back.
43 posted on 02/15/2006 11:22:57 AM PST by elhombrelibre (MSM: de facto allies of America's enemies.)
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To: Wolfie

Neither is Pat Buchannan


44 posted on 02/15/2006 11:23:57 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (M.S.M. Creed: "Truth has no substance until we give it permission! ")
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To: elhombrelibre

Shhhh. Don't tell elhombrelibre, our assets are never coming back.


45 posted on 02/15/2006 11:24:02 AM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Oh really? Is that why the citizens of Texas can't afford to build their own highway system and have to ask the Spanish company Cintra to fund and run it? Is that why Arnold Schwarzenegger who hasn't spent one red cent filling some of the potholes on California freeways, is asking China to fund a "goods movement corridor" out of the LA basin? Is that why our water and utility systems are being sold off to foreign entities-- they say its because citizens and municipalities are broke and can't afford to keep them up. If we are making so much money, where is all the tax money they are collecting going?

Your post perfectly illustrates what I found so bizarre about the whole Buchananite vision for this country.

You cite a litany of government failures on the economic front as a justification for your plans to put the government in charge of the purchasing decisions of individual Americans.

The current system, as you note, is very imperfect. The answer is less government interference. Not more. Anybody who’s paying attention knows that.

46 posted on 02/15/2006 11:25:12 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: hedgetrimmer
If we are making so much money, where is all the tax money they are collecting going?

You got me!

47 posted on 02/15/2006 11:25:49 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: SirLinksalot
When NAFTA was up for a vote in 1993, the Clintonites and their GOP fellow-travelers said it would grow our trade surplus

What trade surplus? Has the US even had a trade surplus since the 1960's?

This has nothing to do with NAFTA and everything to do with GATT and the Roosevelt era policy reducing tarriffs.

48 posted on 02/15/2006 11:25:49 AM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: SirLinksalot
Pat wants to give US tax dollars to Hamas, but he doesn't want us to employ Mexicans or buy things from Asians. Weird man.
49 posted on 02/15/2006 11:27:08 AM PST by elhombrelibre (MSM: de facto allies of America's enemies.)
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To: Rummyfan; SirLinksalot; Willie Green

Paging Willie Green!


50 posted on 02/15/2006 11:27:36 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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51 posted on 02/15/2006 11:28:48 AM PST by krunkygirl
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To: SirLinksalot

Maybe the Democrats should hire Buchanan. He sounds alot like Clinton did in 1992 when he blathered on about how this country was suffering through the worse economy in 50 years.


52 posted on 02/15/2006 11:29:13 AM PST by steadfastconservative
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To: EternalHope

Yup, my portfolio is up 35%, my home value has doubled and my property value in Florida has increased 500%..thinks are looking pretty bad.


53 posted on 02/15/2006 11:29:49 AM PST by JABBERBONK
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To: Wolfie

"What's the point. Until Hillary's in the White House, people here just won't care."

You're dead-on with this one. Enjoy your umbrella-drinks, boys. There will be a change in '08. The only question is whether it will come from within the GOP. If conservatives don't take the lead on this issue, Hillary will.

"None dare call it economic treason."

I do... Unless your main source of income is playing the markets (in which case you're pretty much a parasite anyways), you're not safe from globalism, either. Every wage earner in this country is under attack. Not to mention that it is a VERY bad idea to be giving the Chinese the means to global domination.


54 posted on 02/15/2006 11:31:29 AM PST by CowboyJay (Rough Riders!)
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To: CowboyJay
>>>>>>>Unless your main source of income is playing the markets (in which case you're pretty much a parasite anyways), you're not safe from globalism, either. Every wage earner in this country is under attack. Not to mention that it is a VERY bad idea to be giving the Chinese the means to global domination.

You are exactly right.

55 posted on 02/15/2006 11:33:14 AM PST by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: SirLinksalot

Pat is an idiot. when software is shipped out the country it is billed - often for tax purposes - at the cost of the media not the product. So a $100 export might be for 5 million. We export a chip plant to Isreal, does every bit of the intellectual captial get added to the install - NO!!


56 posted on 02/15/2006 11:34:33 AM PST by q_an_a
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To: SirLinksalot

It's funny how SOCIALIST-LIKE these threads become...

Wage-earners...

more government control....

to quote Sen. Byrd: "Too much consumin' goin' on out there"....

It's great.

At least Pat got off of his Hate Israel kick. Not that his followers will see it that way, but then again, it isn't as if Pat will EVER win ANYTHING.....


57 posted on 02/15/2006 11:35:54 AM PST by MikefromOhio (Brokeback Mountain: The ONLY western where the Cowboys GET IT IN THE END!!!)
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To: SirLinksalot
Man, this thread shows what a change has taken place on FR over the last six years. There used to be a pretty vigorous Buchanan brigade.

Just a point, I've seen Buchanan trashed a lot on this thread, but haven't seen any significant refutations of his points. I'm no economist, so I don't know, but without reference to who wrote the column, are there flaws? What are they?

Oh, as a side note, and I've never gotten this one straight in my head. The constitution requires all treaties to be validated by a 2/3rds vote of Congress. Did Congress side-step this by calling it an agreement instead of a treaty? Or was it passed by a 2/3rds vote. If it wasn't, shouldn't NAFTA be challenged in Federal court? Calling a treaty an agreement doesn't change the nature of what it is, and I think that there is substantive legal support that changing the name of something without changing it's underlying nature does not change legal ramifications(Example, calling a chain letter an "investment opportunity" doesn't mean it's not a chain letter).

58 posted on 02/15/2006 11:36:34 AM PST by Richard Kimball
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To: Aquinasfan
Milton Friedman opened my eyes on that one. Either they spend the money, in which case it returns to us, or they burn it, and we keep the stuff.Ah, but the are getting stuff...without spending it. Instead they will just take our industry and technology. Which our companies are stampeding to get over there...and build the plants on our dime. Someone needs to open Milton's yes on this. So they aren't just "burning" it. By not buying our stuff..or just buying paper debt from our government...they hasten the demise of our industry. By strangulation and crowding out.

And if you noticed...they are very, very good at not buying our stuff. They now have $800 billion in currency reserves stockpiled...almost all dollars.

59 posted on 02/15/2006 11:37:00 AM PST by Paul Ross (Hitting bullets with bullets successfully for 35 years!)
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To: elhombrelibre
"Pat wants to give US tax dollars to Hamas",

Pat agrees with Bush.

Bush SOTU "I will ask Congress for $350 million to support Palestinian political, economic, and security reforms. The goal of two democratic states, Israel and Palestine, living side by side in peace, is within reach -- and America will help them achieve that goal. (Applause.)"

60 posted on 02/15/2006 11:37:11 AM PST by ex-snook (God of the Universe, God of Creation, God of Love, thank you for life.)
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