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I mean we've already had a 'Mission Accomplished' banner and a few elections replete with purple fingers. What else is there to do?

Spoken just like Terry McAuliffe. Pathetic.

Say, Billy, what did Dubya say during his speech in front of said banner? Hmmmm?

If you take pride in urinating and defecating on troops that you pretend to care about, then you can say crap that sounds like someone as biased and obtuse as Terry McCauliffe.

Sarcasm is nice for people like Bill Maher. It is also a useful tool for those who speak a lot but say nothing.

Iraq is only a failure to those sheltered in their own disconnect from the men and women reenlisting in record numbers to go back. I prefer to support these brave, successful volunteers rather than sarcastically mock their efforts.

When you call their effort a failure, you call them failures.

I prefer to say 'thank you', 'job well done' and 'keep up the good work'.

I read it. It flew in the face of everything Adams warned us of in 1821. But hell that was just the son of one of the Framers. What could he know about the intended role of these United States in world affairs when compared to the wisdom of Bush? Freedom for the Iraqis? Sounds quite similar to enlisting our banner under the banner of 'foreign independence'. Also note Bush used the 9/11-Iraq ties excuse in that speech which have for the most part been discounted by now. Well except for true believers like yourself...

Tell us Coop. Every good military strategy, actually any strategy, should have certain goals outlined to meet so one can claim a project is finished. What are your watermarks? Your test points? If these points aren't met on a regular basis, do you change your views? Or does that just happen when the 'wrong' party comes to power?