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Bill would create virtual school for grades K-12 (Mo)
The Southeast Missourian ^ | March 5, 2006 | Mark Bliss

Posted on 03/05/2006 10:35:32 AM PST by Conservababe

Bill would create 'virtual schools' for K through 12

Sunday, March 5, 2006

MARK BLISS ~ Southeast Missourian

Some area school superintendents worry about the financial effect on local districts. Missouri children could get an education -- kindergarten through high school -- without ever setting foot in a school building under legislation working its way through the Missouri House.

The bill would require the Department of Elementary and Secondary Education to establish a "virtual school" by July 1, 2007. Students in kindergarten through 12th grade could enroll full- or part-time in a virtual school.

Proponents say it would be the most comprehensive "virtual school" system in the nation.

DESE deputy commissioner Bert Schulte said his department expects to contract with Internet companies to offer several virtual schools in the state.

As with other public schools, virtual schools would be offered tuition-free. The state through tax dollars would pay the cost of the schooling.

The Department of Elementary or Secondary Education or DESE supports the bill. So does the Missouri School Boards' Association and the Missouri State Teachers Association.

Education officials, education leaders and lawmakers say it would expand learning opportunities for students, particularly in smaller, rural school districts that offer a more limited curriculum.

"It makes quality education available for students from every part of the state," said state Rep. Nathan Cooper, R-Cape Girardeau. "Who wouldn't support that?"

But Cape Girardeau school board member Tim Arbeiter and area superintendents wonder about virtual schools' impact on local school districts. It could siphon off some state aid that otherwise would go to the school districts.

"It is one of the things you kind of want to keep your eye on," Arbeiter said.

Cape Girardeau superintendent Dr. David Scala said it might encourage some students to drop out of the public schools in favor of online coursework.

Under the legislation, the virtual school or schools would receive 85 percent of the state aid allocated for each full-time student served by Internet instruction. The school district where the student resides would receive 15 percent.

DESE deputy commissioner Bert Schulte envisions most students would take some courses online but also continue to take traditional classes at their high schools.

As a result, the redistribution of state aid would be based on how many class hours a student takes, he said.

"I think the initial impact is going to be quite minimal," said Schulte.

In the first year of the program, the state would allocate $2.6 million to serve a maximum of 500 full-time, virtual-school students.

It would amount to state funding of $5,200 to teach each full-time student.

In the second year, the program could expand to include up to 750 full-time students. By the third year, enrollment would be expanded to include as many as 1,000 full-time students, Schulte said.

He said the total number of students served could be much higher because most of them likely will be part-time students in the virtual schools.

After three years, the legislature would decide whether to expand the program.

About half of the states have virtual-school programs, according to DESE.

DESE's Schulte said small, rural schools often can't find a teacher to teach an advanced or honors-level class. Sometimes a district doesn't have enough students signed up for a particular class to justify the expense of offering that class, he said.

A virtual school would solve those problems, he said. It also would provide a way for homebound students, including those suffering from illnesses or who have been suspended from school, to continue their studies.

Homeschooled students also could take advantage of such instruction, Schulte said.

Rep. Cooper said virtual schools would help students in districts burdened with a shortage of teachers to instruct classes in such subjects as math and science.

Many rural districts don't have the resources, the teachers or enough student interest to provide Advanced Placement courses, he said.

"What's worse, some rural districts struggle to offer the basics that some colleges require for admission, like foreign languages," Cooper said.

Cooper said he believes virtual schools would most help students who suffer from serious medical conditions or disabilities.

Virtual schools, however, aren't for everybody. Schulte said students must be highly motivated and self-disciplined to take classes online.

Younger students will need parental assistance to take such classes, he said.

While Internet companies would operate the virtual schools, Schulte said, DESE will require teachers in such schools to be certified like regular teachers. Students would be required to take the Missouri Assessment Program tests.

The Missouri School Boards' Association says that would help make such schools accountable. "I don't think we would support a virtual school without those provisions," said association spokesman Brent Ghan.

The MSTA views the legislation as an opportunity to further educate students.

Gail McCray with the MSTA's office in Jefferson City said retired teachers could be recruited to teach in the virtual schools.

"It makes sense to try and provide these services to students in another way," she said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: missouri; virtualschools

1 posted on 03/05/2006 10:35:38 AM PST by Conservababe
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To: Conservababe

Once the National Extortion Association figures this out, they'll kill it.

Internet teaching will combine the resources of a school system with all the benefits of home teaching - AND cut way, way down on the number of teachers needed, thus reducing the number of lefties employed in the school systems. Also, it then opens up competition - bad virtual schools would lose out to good ones.


2 posted on 03/05/2006 10:46:18 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

Hey, why not? The old MSM is loosing out to the new media, which includes the internet. I would love to see the day when the internet kills liberal academia.


3 posted on 03/05/2006 10:49:22 AM PST by umgud (gitrdun)
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To: Spktyr

"certified teachers" and "assessments" will serve to keep this system under"control" too. When they say "NO" child left behind...they mean it....


4 posted on 03/05/2006 10:51:47 AM PST by codder too
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To: Spktyr
The Department of Elementary or Secondary Education or DESE supports the bill. So does the Missouri School Boards' Association and the Missouri State Teachers Association.

This has support from some very strong organizations in this state.

5 posted on 03/05/2006 10:53:05 AM PST by Conservababe
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To: Conservababe
Something to think about. Parents could choose teachers and subjects and discuss controversial issues with their kids. The school would also be held accountable since the lessons would be on tape. I wonder what the catch is?
6 posted on 03/05/2006 11:02:26 AM PST by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg
Under the legislation, the virtual school or schools would receive 85 percent of the state aid allocated for each full-time student served by Internet instruction. The school district where the student resides would receive 15 percent.

This is the catch. The state would gain over time, the total control of the entire school system. It would enhance central control.

7 posted on 03/05/2006 11:09:55 AM PST by TruthConquers (Delenda est publius schola)
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To: Conservababe

This all sounds well and good.

But who will harangue students with shouts of 'Bush is Hitler!'

Hm? Bet they didn't think this through.


8 posted on 03/05/2006 11:16:24 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (Free Republic, the newspaper I can talk back to!)
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To: TruthConquers
I homeschooled my son out of Florida with Abeka. He was part of a regular classroom and the teachers talked to the "home schoolers" just like the other students.
9 posted on 03/05/2006 11:18:28 AM PST by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

I use Abeka too!

I just have a low tolerance for pin headed liberals posing as teachers, and all the bureaucratic baloney that goes with it.


10 posted on 03/05/2006 11:24:57 AM PST by TruthConquers (Delenda est publius schola)
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To: Conservababe

The concept of the "modern" school will go the way of the buggy whip and the vacuum tube very shortly. Virtual schools will be able to get the best experts on virtually every subject and present students the most up to date materials. Testing is a small hang up.

Today virtually every college has online courses available to students. The educational monopoly is headed to the same place as the media monopoly.


11 posted on 03/05/2006 11:36:34 AM PST by appeal2
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To: Conservababe

The savings in bus transportation and building maintenance and bloated administration will be a real eye-opener to tax payers.
That's why it will be a miracle if this is ever adopted in any meaningful way by state governments who are terrorized by their teacher associations.


12 posted on 03/05/2006 11:43:07 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Conservababe
And why not allow parents to choose which virtual school their child can attend? Better yet, let private business bid on offering virtual classes. This would be an inversion of vouchers, but almost as effective.

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But Cape Girardeau school board member Tim Arbeiter and area superintendents wonder about virtual schools' impact on local school districts. It could siphon off some state aid that otherwise would go to the school districts.
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We don't worry that opening a new Safeway will "siphon off" customers from the local IGA, but instead we look forward to how the IGA will remake itself to successfully compete.

Happily, the socialists' deceitful spin on the real economics and cost of public "education" is being understood by more and more people, thanks to the alternative media. The government monopoly on education will soon pass.
13 posted on 03/05/2006 12:13:03 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: kittymyrib
The cost of school buildings exceeds $100/sq foot just for construction. If you were to allocate the per pupil cost of the building along with the cost of the O & M (Operation and Maintenance) budget, you might come up with a figure of $2-3 thousand per pupil per year. This amount is not in the "per pupil expenditure" that is often quoted because at least the capital costs are from the capital budget (often financed via bond issues).

The sad truth is that pubic education in the US averages about $10,000 per pupil per year. It is over $15,000 in DC.

If a three children got together, their parents could hire their own tutor for the money we are spending.

We must get government out of the education business. It is killing our country's future.
14 posted on 03/05/2006 12:20:17 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: Conservababe

Much as I am in favor of things like vouchers, this kind of thing really has had serious problems in California. The test scores here do not back this approach.

Homeschooling is one thing, this other stuff can turn into a pro-forma exercise.


15 posted on 03/05/2006 12:23:25 PM PST by buwaya
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To: buwaya

"Much as I am in favor of things like vouchers, this kind of thing really has had serious problems in California. The test scores here do not back this approach."

Do you have any examples? I know of a success story: The California Virtual Academy, which uses the K12 curriculum, is doing very well with test scores, to my understanding, and is expected to double its enrollment this fall from the high 2000s to about 6000. We are in our third year of homeschooling using this charter and have been extremely pleased with the quality of the education.


16 posted on 03/05/2006 12:35:07 PM PST by GOPrincess
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To: theBuckwheat

Get the federal government out of our country's education--and education agencies and liberal socialist teachers brainwashed by liberal socialist colleges. Return to the home for education as in the beginning of our country. Then we can teach our children the original intent of the Constitution and correct principles. Might have to turn off the TV as it is now constituted. Do I hear the sounds of the coming American Revolution?


17 posted on 03/05/2006 12:53:15 PM PST by dimmer-rats stealvotes (Catching onto the FOX Fonies)
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To: GOPrincess

I did an analysis of charter schools using the CA API data for 2003 and 2004. CA schools get a "Similar schools" rank based on their socio-economic profile. Using that, I figured average charter school "similar schools" ranks, and they were not so good.

The biggest problem was in some of the bigger operators like Julian and Horizon.

Leaving them out, it looks like charters do best (and better than the average public school) with poor black and hispanic kids, but less well with populations with higher socio-economic status.

The CDE API data is here -

http://www.cde.ca.gov/ta/ac/ap/index.asp


18 posted on 03/06/2006 1:24:26 PM PST by buwaya
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