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Dubai threat to hit back (UAE Threatens Against Boeing and US Bases Support)
The Hill.com ^ | March 9, 2006 | Roxana Tiron

Posted on 03/09/2006 9:02:17 AM PST by prairiebreeze

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To: prairiebreeze
"Dubai is threatening retaliation against American strategic and commercial interests if Washington blocks its $6.8 billion takeover of operations at several U.S. ports...."

Ah! The veil of innocence and alliance falls to the floor to reveal the ugly truth of deceit and deception in the form of economic threats and extortion. For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face.......

921 posted on 03/09/2006 11:25:50 AM PST by OB1kNOb (America is the land of the free BECAUSE of the BRAVE !!)
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To: Solson; ex-Texan; LibertarianInExile; All

It's not enough that you're DPW deal divides the GOP. It's not enough that you allow the perception that Democrats own the defense issue because of this deal. It's not enough that your only threatened veto in six years is over a PR fiasco. But you and all your cohorts must continue your senseless, groundless, vengeful ad hominem attacks on the GOP BASE so that there is NO GOOD WILL ANYMORE.

What is your stake in this deal? What's your angle in this game? Will you profit? Are you a WH operative? I'm curious WTH is so vital to you that you're willing to destroy not only the GOP majority, but any good will remaining within the GOP?

What is it about Dubai that bedevils its few supporters?


922 posted on 03/09/2006 11:25:54 AM PST by sully777 (wWBBD: What would Brian Boitano do?)
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To: ohioWfan
Our Republican Congress is now officially a poll-driven, fact-devoid, hysteria based body. Not to mention the fact that their word (the 45 day wait period) means absolutely nothing.

That is the essence of the truth here. I could care less what the world thinks of us as a culture but we will soon see what it's like to do business, economically and in war, with great hostility and suspicion from allies and would-be allies.

Got stocks? I hope you know how to read the wind, when to buy and when to sell.

923 posted on 03/09/2006 11:26:15 AM PST by TigersEye (Everywhere I look all I see are my own desires.)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham
By my reconing, it will take three generations or more.

This instant gratification crap does not fit in that plan.

You are wrong about this, and I hope you see that error sometime before you cash in your chips.

This debacle, added to the rest of the strategic errors made in the last two years by members of the party, have put us into a tail spin that we cannot get out of. It is a disgrace and a sign of the demise of a what once was a great country.

Bush cannot put this rift back together, and he cannot repair the damages. This will cause a power shift that you cannot stop.

The Chinese will simply step into the vacuum.

924 posted on 03/09/2006 11:26:18 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Paul Ross
From the sounds of what Warner just said, the UAE and DPW are not the skunks here.

They seem to be behaving in a business-like fashion, considering that the promised 45 waiting period was taken away, because members of Congress are behaving like hysteria-driven adolescents.

925 posted on 03/09/2006 11:26:33 AM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: .cnI redruM; oceanview
No, they're not the same, but they both have the same mentality.

Simply because a country has the outward trappings of a free market and capitalism does not mean that it is automatically a U.S. ally.

I have a question for all of the Dubai boosters on this thread.

You can make the argument that mainland China is more capitalist in nature right now than Norway.

Does that mean that the PRC is a more reliable, trustworthy ally than Norway?

926 posted on 03/09/2006 11:26:50 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: JamesP81

Actually, most who think this is bad simply didn't understand the context.

I was fully supportive of the port deal, and also fully support this move by a business to make a business decision for themselves based on the opposition.

I objected to the U.S. implementing a command economy regarding U.S. port terminal operations, and back-stabbing our allies.

If our allies want to be kind to us, that's fine with me. I fear that the new owners won't have the money to implement security, but that is not a big issue to me.

I'm sure all those who in this threat accused DP World of all sorts of evil will now apologize, since the announcement said that because of their long friendship with our country, and because they value the friendship, they are willing to make this concession.

I don't think that many people actively "SUPPORTED" the deal. The division was between people who opposed the deal, and people who thought the companies had a right to make a deal and we had no right to block it.

It's like the argument over free speech. If opponents want to block a KKK rally, those who support the RIGHT to have the rally aren't likely to actually SUPPORT the rally itself.


927 posted on 03/09/2006 11:27:14 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Uh-oh. You mean an American company will now have to pony up the amount that DPW wants in order to buy the terminals leases??

Gee, wonder if congress thought that far down the line.....(rolling eyes)

Maybe the congresscritters can dig down in their pockets and become investors of said American company to help them muster the required capital.....oh yeah, never mind.


928 posted on 03/09/2006 11:27:28 AM PST by prairiebreeze (The Old Media: today's carnival barkers.)
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To: COEXERJ145

Yeah, both; also, they think they've taken over the GOP now, being able to stampede the stupid GOPers into this.

Little do they realize that not many are going to follow them off that cliff.


929 posted on 03/09/2006 11:28:06 AM PST by Howlin ("Quick, he's bleeding! Is there a <strike>doctor</strike> reporter in the house?")
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To: prairiebreeze
Do you know where they might find a good lawyer to set up a chapter S for them?

As a matter of fact, yes - except Chapt. S is not a good choice ;-)

930 posted on 03/09/2006 11:28:12 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: ohioWfan

If I did not mean it I would not have said it. I've also said the the merits/demerits of the deal mean nothing. This is a grass roots revolt against Globalism, spawned by the globalist policy of leaving our borders open to mass illegal immigration.


931 posted on 03/09/2006 11:28:25 AM PST by jpsb
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To: ohioWfan
Our Republican Congress is now officially a poll-driven, fact-devoid, hysteria based body. Not to mention the fact that their word (the 45 day wait period) means absolutely nothing.

I am now officially ashamed of the Republican party.

Wow...I thought I would never see the day. Welcome to reality.

932 posted on 03/09/2006 11:28:34 AM PST by BureaucratusMaximus (It´s way past time to shut the barn door on illegal aliens.)
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To: Mr. Mojo
So it's a really, really good thing that the people running the UAE are a heck of a lot smarter than the Senate Delegations from NY and NJ. Not too mention all the posters on Free Republic that have spent the last week doing yeoman's work to support those two Senate delegations in their future political ambitions.
933 posted on 03/09/2006 11:28:41 AM PST by .cnI redruM (We need to banish euphemisms. Period. In fact, we need to employ hyperbole when possible.)
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To: TigersEye

People don't need oil - cars do.


934 posted on 03/09/2006 11:28:42 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: JamesP81
Q: What do you call a country that bankrolls Hamas, recognizes the Taliban-but not Israel-and allows terrorists linked to Al Qaeda and Dawood Ibrahim to flourish on its soil?

A: An ally.

935 posted on 03/09/2006 11:28:45 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: TigersEye
And why should our allies NOT be suspicious?

We had a deal that DPW agreed to.....to wait and analyze for 45 days.......and we reniged on the deal.

Who should trust us? Our word now officially means nothing.

936 posted on 03/09/2006 11:28:55 AM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: Rutles4Ever

You said -- "Yeah, I'm sure Iran's desire to destroy Israel was based on whether or not we made this port deal."

Iran getting the bomb or not depends solely on our ability to stop them. That's all. Nothing more.

Taking the UAE out of the picture (as far as our presence there) will limit that ability. That's the point of having the UAE.

Take a look at the map and see where the UAE is relation to the Strait of Hormuz, which Iran said they were going to "shut down". Then you'll see the extreme advantage of having a presence *exactly there*.

In addition, we're not *fighting* inside the borders of the UAE. Our position is pretty safe there. However, we *are fighting* (to this day) inside of Iraq and still have plenty of enemies that are blowing up our soldiers. Of the two places to be (and to be based), the UAE is much better and safer and doesn't distract our military from their present situation of fighting the enemy directly and in front of their faces (as in Iraq) -- versus -- having a secure staging area and no worries about fighting an enemy right in front of you (as in the UAE).

And if that wasn't enough, you also have another position and side to launch attacks upon Iran, besides from within Iraq. We're tied down in Iraq whereas we're not tied down in the UAE.

Regards,
Star Traveler


937 posted on 03/09/2006 11:29:12 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: jpsb
This is a grass roots revolt against Globalism

Grassroots? ROFLMAO. It's sheer lunacy, led by the liberals and UNIONS.

Face it, you bought the lies.

938 posted on 03/09/2006 11:29:22 AM PST by Howlin ("Quick, he's bleeding! Is there a <strike>doctor</strike> reporter in the house?")
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To: Junior_G

yep....come on down Hailburton.....


939 posted on 03/09/2006 11:29:27 AM PST by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: .cnI redruM

I really don't care how they feel. I feel better, though.


940 posted on 03/09/2006 11:29:42 AM PST by mlc9852
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