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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
I can remember when the "big bang" theory was fought tooth and nail by modern scientists because it was so ....shall we say...biblical?

So that was Tom Golds' and Fred Hoyle's objection? Perhaps you have a link to Gold and Hoyle's comments on the subject. (These were the primary opponents of the Big Bang theory.)

PS: I didn't know you were that old.

99 posted on 03/10/2006 11:53:16 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: longshadow

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100 posted on 03/10/2006 12:01:43 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
PS: I didn't know you were that old.

That old? I grew up in the 40's and 50's. Is that old?

The big bang theory overthrew the steady state theory gradually as new evidence began to accumulate. At what point was it officially overthrown? I don't think that can be answered. I do remember when I was in high school believing in Hoyle's SS theory. It was the accepted theory. Hubble's redshift was fact for about 30 years but that fact by itself was unable to unseat SS theory.

For me, and a lot of other people, the turning point was 1965 when Penzias and Wilson accidentally discovered the cosmic background radiation of the BB for which they won the Nobel Prize.

As to Hoyle's motivation for opposing the BB? I believe it was philosophic in nature. Can't prove it but I do remember reading about some of his comments and quips which led me to that conclusion.

Motives are tricky. They are hidden for the most part. How could a good scientist ever admit to being motivated by anything other then the search for the truth? But they are, or at least they fervently hope their version of the truth wins out. That is why scientists are not immune from the temptation to "cherry pick" data.

You should Google Hoyle's writings and comments and form your own opinion on his motives.

111 posted on 03/10/2006 12:57:55 PM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("fake but accurate": NY Times)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
So that was Tom Golds' and Fred Hoyle's objection? Perhaps you have a link to Gold and Hoyle's comments on the subject. (These were the primary opponents of the Big Bang theory.)

I bet he's thinking, "...better Gold then [Stephen Jay] Gould" (RIP, btw)

So how did Eddington feel about it?

...and oh, yes, I believe Lord Kelvin had some fascinating stuff on the age of the Earth & therefore by extension, the stars...

Yeah, just stirring the pot. (I can hardly wait until some of the less scientific on these threads start reading Kelvin...)

Lord Kelvin

Charles Darwin

PLEASE NOTE their common facial adornment. ;-) (Tee hee...)

161 posted on 03/10/2006 5:59:45 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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