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Modern Aftermath of the Crusades (islam and the west)
Aina.org ^ | 3/12/2006 | Staff

Posted on 03/11/2006 5:41:28 PM PST by Dark Skies

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The President has been told that the west is under attack by a cult. Is this cult all of islam or only a part?

Who knows? But the President has yet to come to the American people with a clear position as to this matter.

Mr. President...here is your challenge. Where is the line to be drawn? Will you answer this challenge or will you hide from it?

Within islam lies a cult of planetary consequence...will you stand and fight? Or will you appease?

1 posted on 03/11/2006 5:41:32 PM PST by Dark Skies
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Well, the 1st Crusade was called to assist the Byzantine empire which was being invaded (cities taken) by the Muslims. Now it was called much later than it was requested and when the crusaders actually arrived at Byzantium, it was a surprise. Many didn't know what they were doing, and the Byzantines pushed them across the river because they seemed more of a threat than not. They made lots of mistakes, changed lots of plans during the 1st Crusade. And for the most part it was a fiasco.

Was it defensive? Yes, I suppose so. Was it a just war? I don't know. Were there war crimes on both sides? Yes.
This is a good book on the topic:


2 posted on 03/11/2006 5:48:13 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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Thx BN...there are so many great books on this topic. And the Crusades are with us again...and not by our choosing.


3 posted on 03/11/2006 5:50:51 PM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: Dark Skies

Good article.

As for Bush, who knows what he is going to do, or for that matter, what any of our leaders are going to do. I suspect that they will keep up the ROP nonsense until there is another massive attack or something else that makes it patently ridiculous.

According to the Hoover Institution policy document that someone posted here this week, a long campaign of some 70 years is expected, mostly "fought" through diplomacy, with the response to "extremists" being only localized and more on the order of reaction than part of a grand plan. In other words, the same non-strategy that we have been following since 1977.

What I don't understand is our willingness to let the Muslims initiate the actions and control the timing, and our blindness to the fact that the problem is far greater than it was in 1977. Not only are our enemies now possessed of seriously threatening weapons, there are Muslims spread throughout formerly friendly countries and agitating for our blood.


4 posted on 03/11/2006 5:52:35 PM PST by livius
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To: Dark Skies

Biblical truth and current affairs are in line. Although this may offend some, God does and will use enemies to bring His own back to Him.


5 posted on 03/11/2006 5:53:03 PM PST by Birmingham Rain
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To: USF; papertyger; jan in Colorado; AmericanArchConservative; Former Dodger

Robert Spenser ping


6 posted on 03/11/2006 5:53:44 PM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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I agree.

A leadership vacuum of Churchillian proportion exists. And no one seems willing to fill it.I am dumbfounded that no leader of world consequence has felt the pull enough to step onto the stage.

Damned strange IMO.

Waiting for that shoe to fall.

7 posted on 03/11/2006 5:58:50 PM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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Dark Skies,

I always enjoy your posts. Thanks for the illumination.

8 posted on 03/11/2006 5:59:16 PM PST by patriotUSA (The day I die will be the greatest day of my life. I will see Jesus.)
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Thx Patriot...glad you are here on a Saturday nite.


9 posted on 03/11/2006 6:00:42 PM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: Dark Skies

True


10 posted on 03/11/2006 6:01:19 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: patriotUSA

BTW...your tag line is the best!


11 posted on 03/11/2006 6:01:57 PM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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We have one. He is President Bush and he is being treated the same as Churchill was. I am not saying that as some lemming. Read over what he has accomplished these last few years. Quite remarkable.



12 posted on 03/11/2006 6:03:20 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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One day I was able to completely drop "me" and my agenda and that truth became know to me. The tagline is not my creation. It was given to me from above.

And your are right, it is the best. I hope you use it.

13 posted on 03/11/2006 6:10:04 PM PST by patriotUSA (The day I die will be the greatest day of my life. I will see Jesus.)
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As Churchill said, "The nation had the lion's heart. I had the luck to give the roar"...

Bush has the lion's heart (IMHO) but he has yet to give the defining roar. He has yet to fully define the enemy. I can't say I blame him...it is the job of a lifetime. But it is his to give...and he has yet to give the "roar."

14 posted on 03/11/2006 6:10:53 PM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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Well said. I keep waiting for Bush to come out of the fog.


15 posted on 03/11/2006 6:14:24 PM PST by patriotUSA (The day I die will be the greatest day of my life. I will see Jesus.)
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I think when you and I die...we will at first think...this is the greatest day (I will see Jesus). But then we might might think...no, the greatest day was when I gave my life to Jesus.

And after a while we might think the greatest day is the day when He went to the cross.

And I imagine there are a million other days we will see (in Him) that are greater still.

How lucky we are! Each day is better than that last!

Already resting in His loving arms...what an eternal blessing!

Have a great weekend!

16 posted on 03/11/2006 6:18:39 PM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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"Damned strange IMO"

Not at all. We presently live in an era of cowardly elites. They are concerned with maintaining their control and not rocking the boat.

IOW they have blinders on.

They will lead us into disaster and from the chaos leadership will necessarialy emerge. A story as old as time, really.


17 posted on 03/11/2006 6:21:38 PM PST by TalBlack (I WON'T suffer the journalizing or editorializing of people who are afraid of the enemies of freedom)
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To: Dark Skies

Wow. It's posts like that, that keep me looking for your name on FR. Blessings to you friend.


18 posted on 03/11/2006 6:28:16 PM PST by patriotUSA (The day I die will be the greatest day of my life. I will see Jesus.)
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To: Dark Skies
Good article. The leftists usually buy Islamic argument that the West is 'deserved' to be hated because they colonized many "Islamic countries" before. This caused the animosity among the Muslim toward the West.

I would say, if we accept that line of argument, we also have to accept the argument that the West 'deserves to hate' Muslims because at the beginning, it was Muslims who conquered Christian lands, converted the Christians, and even captured Constantinople: the Second Rome!

19 posted on 03/11/2006 6:47:56 PM PST by paudio
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Ping to read later


20 posted on 03/11/2006 6:50:40 PM PST by Alex Murphy (Colossians 4:5)
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