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VT: VFW post defies state law, votes to allow smoking
United Pro Smoker's Newsletter ^ | March 16, 2006

Posted on 03/18/2006 1:31:15 PM PST by SheLion

BURLINGTON, Vt. --The Veterans of Foreign Wars post in Hyde Park is defying a 6-month-old state law and will allow members to smoke in a private section of the club.

Sign up for: Globe Headlines e-mail | Breaking News Alerts VFW Post 7779 Commander Bruce Martin, a nonsmoker, said he was one of those who voted to allow smoking. The issue was more than cigarettes.

"These people are sick of the state taking away our private rights," he said.

Immediately after club members voted 7-4 Tuesday night to bring back smoking a number of members lit up.

VFW auxiliary member Robin Ferris filed a complaint Wednesday with the Vermont Health Department.

Ferris who used to work in the VFW said that when she worked there she suffered frequent respiratory ailments and her clothes smelled of smoke.

"I don't want to be affiliated with the kind of organization that breaks state law," Ferris said.

Health Department Spokesman Robert Stirewalt said he was unaware of the complaint.

He said when a complaint is filed a staff member is sent to investigate.

Stirewalt said there have been a handful of complaints since the law took effect in September and all have been settled voluntarily.

Martin said members would decide what to do if the Health Department investigated Ferris's complaint.

"I imagine we'll fight it," he said.

Organizations that refuse to comply can be fined up to $10,000 or each offense.

"Obviously, we're hoping that's not the case" with the VFW, Stirewalt said.

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VT: Elks Vote No On Smoking Ban.

Elks Vote No On Smoking Ban

Burlington, Vermont -- June 18, 2004

Several states and cities have enacted smoking bans in bars and restaurants, but in Burlington the prohibition does not apply to private clubs.

One of those clubs, the Elks, considered a voluntary smoking ban Thursday night.

Elks Exalted Ruler Moe Decelles told Channel 3 News that the members defeated the voluntary smoking ban on a vote of 125-45, an almost three-to-one margin.

Decelles says smoking is allowed at the Elks bar and lounge, but an existing no smoking policy will continue in a separate room used for functions.

 


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1 posted on 03/18/2006 1:31:30 PM PST by SheLion
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To: The Foolkiller; Just another Joe; Madame Dufarge; Cantiloper; metesky; kattracks; Judith Anne; ...
Way to go Vermont!!!!


2 posted on 03/18/2006 1:32:03 PM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: SheLion
"I imagine we'll fight it," he said.

Good for them.

He could have said "We've fought Nazi's before, it don't matter what shore they're on, we'll fight'em again.

3 posted on 03/18/2006 1:35:36 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (REAL men vote Republican)
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To: SheLion

good


4 posted on 03/18/2006 1:35:40 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: SheLion

Good luck to the VFW!


5 posted on 03/18/2006 1:37:25 PM PST by Tax-chick (Welcome to my nightmare. It takes some getting used to!)
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To: SheLion
Good for the VFW! Heroes once again!

This is a good sign. Until the sheeple start defying the insanity it will only continue...as we have seen.

6 posted on 03/18/2006 1:38:29 PM PST by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN - Support our troops. I *LOVE* my attitude problem! Beware the Enemedia.)
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To: SheLion

As a physician, I would be the last to encourage anyone to smoke, but of all the obnoxious and self-destructive behavior the government protects, even encourages, as a "right," smoking seems a strange one to get puritanical about.


7 posted on 03/18/2006 1:39:48 PM PST by I-ambush
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To: I-ambush
As a physician, I would be the last to encourage anyone to smoke, but of all the obnoxious and self-destructive behavior the government protects, even encourages, as a "right," smoking seems a strange one to get puritanical about.

I'm not quite sure what you are trying to say here.

8 posted on 03/18/2006 1:42:39 PM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: SheLion
"I imagine we'll fight it," he said.

I imagine he means it. We may be required to send lawyers, guns, and money to these guys.

/johnny

9 posted on 03/18/2006 1:45:56 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (D@mit! I'm just a cook. Don't make me come over there and prove it!)
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To: SheLion
VFW auxiliary member Robin Ferris filed a complaint Wednesday with the Vermont Health Department.

Ferris who used to work in the VFW said that when she worked there she suffered frequent respiratory ailments and her clothes smelled of smoke.

"I don't want to be affiliated with the kind of organization that breaks state law," Ferris said.

Nice of 'em to identify the troublemaker. Hopefully, she will be the object of community scorn.

10 posted on 03/18/2006 1:46:12 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: SheLion

Not sure of his point ????

Here's a hint: "Brokebutt Mount'em". . .


11 posted on 03/18/2006 1:47:57 PM PST by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
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To: SheLion
...but of all the obnoxious and self-destructive behavior the government protects...

Well, "faggotry" might be one, ya think?

FMCDH(BITS)

12 posted on 03/18/2006 1:48:21 PM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: elkfersupper
Nice of 'em to identify the troublemaker. Hopefully, she will be the object of community scorn.

I sure hope so as well.  Can you see the likes of old prissy nose down in the trenches fighting a war?  LOL!

Maybe that's exactly what she needed!

13 posted on 03/18/2006 1:48:21 PM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: SheLion

"VFW auxiliary member Robin Ferris filed a complaint Wednesday with the Vermont Health Department.

Ferris who used to work in the VFW said that when she worked there she suffered frequent respiratory ailments and her clothes smelled of smoke."




Good old Robin sounds like a barrel of laughs,doesn't she? They should just kick her out of the Post.


14 posted on 03/18/2006 1:48:24 PM PST by Mears (The Killer Queen-caviar and cigarettes.)
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To: SheLion
"I don't want to be affiliated with the kind of organization that breaks state law," Ferris said.

Hitler loved these folks... gave them brown shirts to show his appreciation...

15 posted on 03/18/2006 1:51:01 PM PST by sit-rep (If you acquire, hit it again to verify...)
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To: Balding_Eagle; SheLion; Gabz

"He could have said 'We've fought Nazi's before, it don't matter what shore they're on, we'll fight'em again.'"

Yes! I love it! :)

Wow. I've got to send this on to my local Talk Radio ConservaBabe. She's a total supporter of VFWs around here. Maybe she can tackle our Madison Smoking Ban from this angle?

I'll let Dave Wiganowsky know, too. ;)


16 posted on 03/18/2006 1:51:41 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: SheLion

Private clubs vs commercial business and public venues will win IMO..... Remember we had this conversation a few months ago. Surprised every restaurant and bar hasn't charged a 1 dollar a year "membership" to their patrons to counter such BS bitch' n whine laws.

As ya know I do not smoke but am angered by these type of laws that make choices "for" me and mine......I reserve the right to choose. I don't like something I don't go there, or spend my money on it. I don't need some socialist polidiot telling me what when and where for my own good.

Doom on em....

Stay safe Shelion !


17 posted on 03/18/2006 1:57:07 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: SheLion
Imagine all the places these veterans have been and all the things they've seen, done, put up with, and endured.

Now see the green ecoweenie and the insurance-company puke engaging in profit-enhancing mass behavior-mod BS telling the veterans they can't light up.

Screw the weenies and the pukes in suits. The smoking lamp is lit, guys. Light 'em if you got 'em.

18 posted on 03/18/2006 1:58:54 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: SheLion
VFW auxiliary member Robin Ferris filed a complaint Wednesday with the Vermont Health Department.

"I don't want to be affiliated with the kind of organization that breaks state law," Ferris said.

Robin "the fink" Ferris has spoken!!

19 posted on 03/18/2006 2:00:19 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: I-ambush
but of all the obnoxious and self-destructive behavior the government protects, even encourages, as a "right," smoking seems a strange one to get puritanical about.

I think that's the fun part of it for a lot of these do-gooders. They get to flaunt their (self-proclaimed) moral superiority.

Something I read somewhere:

Q. What good are smokers, anyway?

A. They give people of no merit a reason to feel good about themselves.

20 posted on 03/18/2006 2:06:25 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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