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To: najida
I bet the 21st century is really hard on you :)

I don't get it. You mean young girls who go out and get pregnant -- and the guys who eagerly impregnate them, and the fools who tell them it's fine and they have a right to all the money they can get from others -- are NOT morally incompetent or worse?

I say again (from earlier thread on similar issue) I know an intelligent young woman, a beneficiary of "Family Life" edumication, who just wanted to get pregnant. She really saw nothing wrong with it. I think the real indication was that in a conversation where I was saying that my goal with my child was to help her be stronger than I in every way, this genius said she didn't want her kid to be better than she.

There's a deep and pernicious problem here, and a large segment of our society makes a living minimizing and enabling it.

37 posted on 03/22/2006 7:38:09 AM PST by Mad Dawg (If you find yourself in a fair fight, you did not prepare properly.)
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To: Mad Dawg
I think the real indication was that in a conversation where I was saying that my goal with my child was to help her be stronger than I in every way, this genius said she didn't want her kid to be better than she.

One surprising revelation from volunteering with a program that dealt with many "baby mamas" was that so many of them never thought of their child's future at all...they had never contemplated them as growing into an independent adult, an entity separate from them. They were as shocked to be asked to think about it as I was to find that anyone could not look forward to their child's growth and future.

Sounds like the woman you know was ahead of that, at least.

52 posted on 03/22/2006 8:03:32 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Mad Dawg

I was just hitting on the calling the kid names.

Did ya ever see the Ida Lupino movie about the changes in the 'foundling' laws.

The Mom's are trash, but lay off the kids.


66 posted on 03/22/2006 9:30:01 AM PST by najida (I hate bullies- God, man or beast, it doesn't matter.)
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