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To: puroresu

Doesn't matter what fits or doesn't fit under the ID umbrella. The fact is that it depends entirely on theology to make it work. Therefore it can't be explained by scientific principles. Science does not pulling answers out of a hat the way ID does.


61 posted on 03/22/2006 8:25:54 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: Kirkwood

Never heard of Dark matter, have ya?


64 posted on 03/22/2006 8:32:18 PM PST by AnnoyedOne
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To: Kirkwood

For theistic evolution to be truly theistic it would also be unexplainable by scientific principles as you've defined them. If God had nothing whatsoever to do with how we got here (i.e., how human beings came to exist) then there's nothing theistic about our existence at all. On the other hand, if God did have something to do with it, then whatever method He used is intelligent design. If he created us outright, it's design. If he started the first microscopic life form and then guided it as it evolved into higher forms, it's design. If he started it and programmed it to evolve into us, it's design. If He had anything at all to do with how we got here, then it's design.

That's the crux of the debate here. It's why this debate will never be brought to a close (by humans, at any rate).

The idea that there can be some sort of "compromise" position is just word games. Telling Christians that they should support Theistic Evolution instead of ID or creation is silly. In order for evolution to be theistic, it would have to be design, and for that matter, creation. Likewise, if God had nothing to do with evolution, then it isn't theistic.


69 posted on 03/22/2006 8:39:54 PM PST by puroresu (Conservatism is an observation; Liberalism is an ideology)
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