[normy]

The Republicans are now using on conservatives the old tired method usually used by liberals. They are insulting our core beliefs in hope of shaming us into submission. I grew up in Seattle and dealt with this stuff for years, didn't work then and it wont work now. To purposefully muddy the waters between legal and illegal is frankly a cowards way of framing his losing argument. We are not against immigration, just illegal immigration and that point needs to be hammered home by those on our side. Its sad to say but the republicans are making a huge mistake if they are trying to get re elected. I may not vote democrat ever, but not voting at all is a serious consideration, or maybe just voting at the local level and for my Congressman.

[pageonetoo]

I may not vote democrat ever, but not voting at all is a serious consideration, or maybe just voting at the local level and for my Congressman.

I was raised in a Democrat household. My 82 yr old mom still votes straight party ticket. I worked for Bobby Kennedy and voted for Jimmy Carter. But, when my eyes were opened by those 18% interest rates, I switched and campaigned hard for Ronaldus.

When Jesse Helms was challenged for the Senate by Harvey Gantt (the black mayor of Charlotte), I spent so much money that I got to sit at a table with he and Dan Quayle. I would vote for Dan. I will not vote for a RINO.

I have withdrawn my support for the national Rep. party, though I give to many with R behind their names (I live in WV and we have Sheets Byrd creeping along with Rockyfeller). I no longer list myself as a Republican. I would sign up again, if there were some true conservative patriots in power again.

[SmoothTalker]

" I may not vote democrat ever, but not voting at all is a serious consideration, or maybe just voting at the local level and for my Congressman."

You aren't the only person thinking this. Their will be a price at the polls for Representives that sell America's interests down the river. Honestly I often times wish that we had a viable opposition party in this country. A moderate party that offered a reasonable alternative instead of the anti-american moonbat Dems. If the Republican party had to actually worry about losing races, I doubt you'd see them ignore and spit in the face of the base so often. They'd be a lot more responsive to us and a lot less responsive to the country club elites.

[dennisw]

To purposefully muddy the waters between legal and illegal is frankly a cowards way of framing his losing argument.

Notice how all the skunks in Washington DC do this. Even GWBush has no shame in getting on TV and calling these illegal aliens, simply "immigrants". If they were legitimate (legal) immigrants we wouldn't be having this fight. The reason for these rotten bills is precisely because we have 12-22 million ILLEGAL ALIEN IMMIGRANTS! Not because we have 12-22 million "immigrants"

Both parties use this terminology with some laudable exceptions such as Tom Tancredo and few other Republican Congressman