[catholicfreeper]

I just hope something horrible doesn't come out of this. I am sure some of us remember how stupid and invincible we felt we were 18 0r 19. I am just saying one day someone's son here could get in a stupid fight over a girl in a parking lot throw the first punch and get killed over it. I can think of lot of other situations where this might happen. The common law doctrine of self defense has developed over the centuries for a reason. That is past common experience.

[billorites]

I have a sick feeling that a great deal of the people getting killed are going to be killed by a spouse.

I suspect a major reason that the police chiefs are agin it is because of concerns that it will facilitate domestic violence.

[Finop]

Once again... If unprovoked, the instigator has the right to receive whatever it is they get, intended or unintended. To contemplate otherwise, is to endorse violence against others. Think about it

[Durus]

I am just saying one day someone's son here could get in a stupid fight over a girl in a parking lot throw the first punch and get killed over it.

So assault that could easily result in the death of the assaulted should be ignored? How many punches should someone take before defending themselves? How many punches should a pregnant woman take before defending themselves, how about the elderly? I think you an have overly romantic notions of assault.

[Durus]

Correction =
I think you have an overly romantic notion of assault.

[SauronOfMordor]

I just hope something horrible doesn't come out of this. I am sure some of us remember how stupid and invincible we felt we were 18 0r 19. I am just saying one day someone's son here could get in a stupid fight over a girl in a parking lot throw the first punch and get killed over it.

Looking at the actual Bill's Text clarifies things

III. A person who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be shall have no duty to retreat and shall have the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so, to prevent death or serious bodily injury to himself, herself, or another.

Under the proposed law, I DO NOT have the right to shoot you in response to you punching me in the face, or threatening to. I DO have the right to shoot you if you come at me with a knife. The law does not authorize the use of deadly force in a common fight

[RevCon]

"The common law doctrine of self defense has developed over the centuries for a reason."

The common law doctrine of slavery also developed over the centuries for a reason - did that make slavery OK??? NO. Repressive law is repressive law, whether it is born of legislation or from a history of bad judicial decisions (i.e. common law).

"I am sure some of us remember how stupid and invincible we felt we were 18 0r 19. I am just saying one day someone's son here could get in a stupid fight over a girl in a parking lot throw the first punch and get killed over it."

First of all, you can not carry a weapon in NH (or in most states) unless your over the ager 21 for exactly this reason. Secondly, if you throw the first punch (or initiate any violence against another person, for any reason) then you get what you deserve. It's just a cleansing of the gene pool.