Bush set for immigration speech

WRIC News ^ | 5-14-06 | AP

[nicmarlo]

I can't believe my distrust for my countries government. These people make LBJ look good.

You're so right. They are so disgustingly crooked anymore.

[potlatch]

Thanks AC, I went and looked at it. Poor Tony is going to have a hard time.

[JustPiper]

Important Story especially for CA sent to me by a great freeper patriot~

Feds warn O.C. of terror lurking 'down the street'
Feds an unseen but mighty presence here

~Snip
I'm not as surprised that the FBI is doing this - as well as other aggressive anti-terrorist activities in Orange County - as I am that the FBI would tell us

http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/news/atoz/article_1154129.php

[Arizona Carolyn]

I agree. He was always my favorite on Fox each weekend. His radio show was too early in the day for me, but as bad as Scott was in the job, I wish Tony had said thanks, but no thanks.

[JustPiper]

This is excellent thank you Lion!

[Altura Ct.]

Hell Yes! Say it again and say it LOUD.

Is the pot boiling yet?

[JustPiper]

Do You Agree with Bush's Border Plan?

Vote in This Urgent Poll

http://www.newsmax.com/poll/border/?PROMO_CODE=1FE8-1

[JustPiper]

Thanks will check it out

[JustPiper]

[JustPiper]

Legal immigrants show other side of system

ATLANTA - Working with illegal immigrants every day in a suburban Atlanta bank, Carlos Carbonell knows exactly where to go to buy a fake green card for his wife. Sometimes he thinks it would be much easier.

His wife, Valentina, has been stuck in their native Caracas, Venezuela, for four years because of backlogs in processing her green card application.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060525/ap_on_re_us/immigration_legal_immigrants

[JustPiper]

These are the senators who voted "no" on the senate amnesty bill. I plan to send all and email thanking them for doing the right thing by the American people

Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Allen (R-VA)
Bond (R-MO)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burns (R-MT)
Burr (R-NC)
Byrd (D-WV)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Dole (R-NC)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lott (R-MS)
Nelson (D-NE)
Roberts (R-KS)
Santorum (R-PA)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Sununu (R-NH)
Talent (R-MO)
Thomas (R-WY)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)

"Amnesty Republicans"

Here's your list of "Amnesty Republicans."
Remember -- without these Republicans there
would be no amnesty bill!

Robert Bennett (UT): (202) 224-5444
Sam Brownback (KS): (202) 224-6521
Lincoln Chafee (RI): (202) 224-2921
Norm Coleman (MN): (202) 224-5641
Susan Collins (ME) (202) 224-2523
Larry Craig (ID): (202) 224-2752
Mike DeWine (OH): (202) 224-2315
Pete Domenici (NM): (202) 224-6621
Bill Frist (TN): (202) 224-3344
Lindsay Graham (SC): (202) 224-5972
Judd Gregg (NH): (202) 224-3324
Chuck Hagel (NE): (202) 224-4224
Richard Lugar (IN): (202) 224-4814
Mel Martinez (FL): (202) 224-3041
John McCain (AZ): (202) 224-2235
Mitch McConnell (KY): (202) 224-2541
Lisa Murkowski (AK): (202) 224-6665
Gordon Smith (OR): (202) 224-3753
Olympia Snowe (ME): 202) 224-5344
Arlen Specter (PA): (202) 224-4254
Ted Stevens (AK): (202) 224-3004
George Voinovich (OH): (202) 224-3353
John Warner (VA): (202) 224-2023


+ + Don't Lose Hope -- Battle Just Begun!


Go here to see the Roll Call vote on the final bill:

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=2&vote=00157

[TheLion]

Immigration and Outsourcing: How to Pit Cheap Labor Against the American Middle Class
American Economic Alert ^ | Wednesday, May 24, 2006 | William R. Hawkins


Posted on 05/25/2006 11:02:05 PM EDT by A. Pole


I took a long road trip last week and was delighted to hear the unanimity among conservative radio hosts in favor of halting all illegal immigration on my car radio. They also denounced President George W. Bush’s TV address a few nights before offering "guest worker" status to millions who had entered the United States without permission. I had expected these views from Laura Ingraham and Sean Hannity, but was somewhat surprised by the strong language of Rush Limbaugh and Neal Boortz.

Limbaugh is a Republican Establishment icon, usually very supportive of President Bush. Yet he was praising a nation-wide grassroots conservative revolt against the GOP leadership. He said the revolt was spearheaded by city elections in Herndon, Virginia, just outside Washington, DC. On May 9, the incumbent mayor and most of the city council were replaced by candidates who opposed to the creation of a "day labor" site catering to illegal workers (and their illegal employers) that the defeated incumbents had funded. Only one of the council members who supported the site was re-elected. Limbaugh added other issues of concern to conservatives, such as failure to fight hard enough in Iraq and excessive domestic spending by a GOP-controlled Congress. But it is clear that immigration is what has the grassroots up in arms.

Neal Boortz was surprising for a different reason. He is a libertarian; an advocate of capitalism and minimal government. Most people of this ideology are for unrestricted migration, placing the desires of individual people and business firms ahead of national concerns and government policy. Yet, Boortz was extremely critical of the Senate, declaring, "By their actions our elected officials in Washington are sending us a rather strong message: We are not going to take any affirmative action to insure that the Mexican invasion across our southern border is brought to a halt. We must consider the possibility that these politicians want this invasion to continue because it serves their political needs. For the Democrats, this one is easy....to get those who were once illegal aliens, but by virtue of the amnesty program are illegal no more, to the polls to vote, presumably for Democrats. As for the Republicans? Well, there's always those heavy-duty contributors who benefit from the cheap labor offered by the invasion force."

He sounded just like Ingraham, who noted how "the business lobby [is] desperate to keep the flow of cheap labor coming into this country." Limbaugh denounced "country club Republicans." This line of criticism is not confirmed to radio. Back home on May 22, I was watching Fox News before heading to work. I was happy to hear "Fox & Friends" host E. D. Hill blame the Chamber of Commerce for lobbying on behalf of an "amnesty" in the Senate bill for employers who have hired illegal workers in violation of Federal law. They will not be subjected to fines or back taxes if their employees are eventually enrolled in a "guest worker" program (though the workers themselves will be).

In taking this stand, the Chamber of Commerce is siding with criminal firms against honest employers who have not hired illegals. When a business hires illegals, it is to gain a competitive "cheap labor" edge against other firms that obey the law and hire only Americans or legal immigrants. Most firms do not employ illegals. Even in those fields where illegals are thought to concentrate, such as construction, restaurants, agriculture, and cleaning services, they are still only a minority of the labor force. By taking the side of the illegal business sector, the Chamber is clearly favoring its growth at the expense of the rest of the economy.

And here is where the immigration issue comes into sync with another major economic issue that too many conservatives have been ignoring – the dangerous trends in international trade. In both cases, rogue corporations are pitting foreigners against Americans. Whether they bring foreign workers here, or send jobs to foreign workers overseas, these self-seeking firms are in alliance with foreign interests against American-based firms and their citizen-employees. Moving factories out of the United States is even more damaging to American society than hiring illegals, as the resulting enterprises are put completely out of reach.

The loss of millions of skilled industrial jobs, as well as managerial and technical positions, due to the de-industrialization of the American economy, sets the country up for the invasion by unskilled foreign migrants. As Chamber of Commerce President Thomas Donohue testified to the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Immigration, Border Security and Citizenship on May 26, 2005, "of the top 10 largest job growth occupations between 2002 and 2012, all but two require less than a bachelor’s degree. At the same time, six of the top 10 growth occupations require only short-term on-the-job training. Some of these top 10 occupations that only require short-term on the-job training include: retail salespersons, nursing aides, janitors and cleaners, waiters and waitresses, and combined food preparation and serving workers."

The skill level of the American labor force is being dumbed down by foreign outsourcing and trade deficits. In addition, we allow less educated illegal aliens to enter the country and compete for the low-level jobs that are all an economy hemmed in by overseas rivals can create. And when jobs skills are dumbed down, pay and living standards are also brought down. We are in fact importing poverty.

The invasion of foreign products has taken a larger toll on the U.S. economy and society than the invasion of illegal immigrants. Last year, the U.S. imported over $1.6 trillion worth of goods produced overseas. Foreign firms are responsible for much of this assault on American industry. But it is the political influence of nominally American firms that keeps Congress from taking action to secure the U.S. border against foreign economic rivals. The Chamber of Commerce represents these new "transnational" firms that no longer feel any allegiance to the United States and have joined forces with the alien onslaught by moving their operations overseas. These arrogant firms feel they are above the law and outside the bond of patriotism. Only strong government policy, based on the truly conservative (i.e., time-tested) doctrines of economic nationalism, can educate people like Donohue that being a "man without a country" is a ultimately a dead-end choice.

Thus the grassroots rebellion against political leaders who are in the pockets of the transnationals must prevail. If the United States is to survive as a powerful nation whose people are prosperous and whose economy can support their security and preeminent place in the world, then what happened in Herndon must happen in Washington. And with the expanded agenda needed to combat illegal foreign competition in all its forms

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1638515/posts

[Seadog Bytes]

From a Paul Harvey listener...

1.  Dig a moat along the length of the Mexican border.
2.  Use the dirt to raise New Orleans' levees.
3.  Stock the moat with Florida alligators.

       ...Any other problems you'd like me to solve?"

[TheLion]

Just think, if the shamnesty act gets passed, no one will have to play by the rules anymore in regards to immigration. Millions upon millions will start pouring in....the border patrol will throw their hands up in the air and we will be over-run....now try and have a nice day....just kidding.

[JustPiper]

*** Much Need Humor in Truth Break

These are from a book called Disorder in the American Courts, and are things people actually said in court, word for word, taken down and now published by court reporters who had the torment of staying calm while these exchanges were actually taking place.

---

_______________________________


ATTORNEY: What is your date of birth?
WITNESS: July 18th.
ATTORNEY: What year?
WITNESS: Every year.
_______________________________


ATTORNEY: What gear were you in at the moment of the impact?
WITNESS: Gucci sweats and Reeboks.
_______________________________


ATTORNEY: This myasthenia gravis, does it affect your memory at all?
WITNESS: Yes.
ATTORNEY: And in what ways does it affect your memory?
WITNESS: I forget.
ATTORNEY: You forget? Can you give us an example of something you forgot?
_______________________________

ATTORNEY: How old is your son, the one living with you?
WITNESS: Thirty-eight or thirty-five, I can't remember which.
ATTORNEY: How long has he lived with you?
WITNESS: Forty-five years.
_______________________________


ATTORNEY: What was the first thing your husband said to you that morning?
WITNESS: He said, "Where am I, Cathy?"
ATTORNEY: And why did that upset you?
WITNESS: My name is Susan.
_______________________________


ATTORNEY: Do you know if your daughter has ever been involved in voodoo?
WITNESS: We both do.
ATTORNEY: Voodoo?
WITNESS: We do.
ATTORNEY: You do?
WITNESS: Yes, voodoo.
_______________________________


ATTORNEY: Now doctor, isn't it true that when a person dies in his sleep, he doesn't know about it until the next morning? WITNESS: Did you actually pass the bar exam?
_______________________________

ATTORNEY: The youngest son, the twenty-year-old, how old is he?
WITNESS: Uh, he's twenty-one.
_______________________________

ATTORNEY: Were you present when your picture was taken?
WITNESS: Would you repeat the question?
_______________________________

ATTORNEY: So the date of conception (of the baby) was August 8th?
WITNESS: Yes.
ATTORNEY: And what were you doing at that time?
WITNESS: Uh....
_______________________________

ATTORNEY: She had three children, right?
WITNESS: Yes.
ATTORNEY: How many were boys?
WITNESS: None.
ATTORNEY: Were there any girls?
_______________________________

ATTORNEY: How was your first marriage terminated?
WITNESS: By death.
ATTORNEY: And by whose death was it terminated?
_______________________________

ATTORNEY: Can you describe the individual?
WITNESS: He was about medium height and had a beard.
ATTORNEY: Was this a male or a female?
_______________________________

ATTORNEY: Is your appearance here this morning pursuant to a deposition notice which I sent to your attorney?
WITNESS: No, this is how I dress when I go to work.
_______________________________

ATTORNEY: Doctor, how many of your autopsies have you performed on dead people?
WITNESS: All my autopsies are performed on dead people.
_______________________________

ATTORNEY: ALL your responses MUST be oral, OK? What school did you go to?
WITNESS: Oral.
_______________________________

ATTORNEY: Do you recall the time that you examined the body?
WITNESS: The autopsy started around 8:30 p.m.
ATTORNEY: And Mr. Denton was dead at the time?
WITNESS: No, he was sitting on the table wondering why I was doing an autopsy on him!
_______________________________

ATTORNEY: Are you qualified to give a urine sample?
WITNESS: Huh?
_______________________________

ATTORNEY: Doctor, before you performed the autopsy, did you check for a pulse?
WITNESS: No.
ATTORNEY: Did you check for blood pressure?
WITNESS: No.
ATTORNEY: Did you check for breathing?
WITNESS: No.
ATTORNEY: So, then it is possible that the patient was alive when you began the autopsy?
WITNESS: No.
ATTORNEY: How can you be so sure, Doctor?
WITNESS: Because his brain was sitting on my desk in a jar.
ATTORNEY: But could the patient have still been alive, nevertheless?
WITNESS: Yes, it is possible that he could have been alive and practicing law.

[JustPiper]

Completely works for me! All we need is a pic to go with this ;)

[JustPiper]

Well then let them try and arrest us for false ID, traffic stops, taxes etc I will contest it with the defense hey you gave it to illegals!

[TheLion]

Found this comment posted on a blog.


Posted by Barb
Friday, May 12, 2006 6:11:58 PM
Not only was the protest of the illegal immigrants bold and illegal as they are, I personally observed many instances of aggesssive behavior on the part of Latino males in the streets where I live. Its not rocket science people. The floods/invasion of peoples from Mexico and El Salvador and their immediate offspring continuum is mean't to establish dominance! My view. Dry up the employment. Get Americans working in construction (especially Black uneducated males with no where to go) and let these people apply legally for guest whatever and then do the countdown to who is deserving to apply for citizenship. First and foremost is secure ALL OF OUR BORDERS! This is not Mexico. Why should we absorb their populace and support a foreign country with non FEDERALLY taxed dollars that the Mexican illegals give to their countrymen? Sure its sad that people struggle but the law is the law! It was sure enough damn sad when my Grandfather and his kin before him were born into slavery and forced to work for nothing for hundreds of years! Why should these new illegal entrants be so well preferred and better than the uncountable Americans who paid with sweat, blood, family, livlihood and loss be so special? PEOPLE THEY HAVE NOT BEEN HERE THAT LONG, MOST LESS THAN 1 YEAR, 2 YEARS CERTAINLY LESS THAN 10 YEARS! Give me a break! Lets get American back to being honest and fair! America for Americans not Mexico!

[nicmarlo]

REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER

"Amnesty Republicans"

Here's your list of "Amnesty Republicans."
Remember -- without these Republicans there
would be no amnesty bill!

Robert Bennett (UT): (202) 224-5444
Sam Brownback (KS): (202) 224-6521
Lincoln Chafee (RI): (202) 224-2921
Norm Coleman (MN): (202) 224-5641
Susan Collins (ME) (202) 224-2523
Larry Craig (ID): (202) 224-2752
Mike DeWine (OH): (202) 224-2315
Pete Domenici (NM): (202) 224-6621
Bill Frist (TN): (202) 224-3344
Lindsay Graham (SC): (202) 224-5972
Judd Gregg (NH): (202) 224-3324
Chuck Hagel (NE): (202) 224-4224
Richard Lugar (IN): (202) 224-4814
Mel Martinez (FL): (202) 224-3041
John McCain (AZ): (202) 224-2235
Mitch McConnell (KY): (202) 224-2541
Lisa Murkowski (AK): (202) 224-6665
Gordon Smith (OR): (202) 224-3753
Olympia Snowe (ME): 202) 224-5344
Arlen Specter (PA): (202) 224-4254
Ted Stevens (AK): (202) 224-3004
George Voinovich (OH): (202) 224-3353
John Warner (VA): (202) 224-2023

[potlatch]

Thanks for the list nic!