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Guard Presence on Border Worries Lawmakers
ap/yahoo ^ | 5/12/06 | nedra pickler

Posted on 05/14/2006 1:29:04 PM PDT by LouAvul

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1 posted on 05/14/2006 1:29:05 PM PDT by LouAvul
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To: LouAvul
First, "Chuck, you ignorant slut." Chuckie, did you catch the governor's race? Tom Osborn LOST because he was pro-illegal. Let that sink in, Chuckie.

Second, does anyone else here think National Guard enlistments would SOAR if one of their main uses was to seal the border? I think a lot of people would volunteer for that job.

2 posted on 05/14/2006 1:35:40 PM PDT by LS
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To: LouAvul
The pro-amnesty folks still do NOT get it. Yeah, they'll lose elections. That will be their wakeup call.

(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")

3 posted on 05/14/2006 1:36:32 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: LS
Voter presence in the voting booth better worry lawmakers.
4 posted on 05/14/2006 1:36:44 PM PDT by Swanks
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To: LouAvul
The guard is a good, TEMPORARY, first step. It needs to be followed up with a wall, severe employer penalties, a means to VERIFY legal status that is virtually foolproof, not public services for ANY illegal...and an end to the "anchor baby" practice.

IF, and only if, these are implemented I would support a guest worker program, as long as these provisions are enforced and as long as they don't increase the rate of LEGAL immigration.

If ANY form of amnesty is offered for the illegals currently here it would sour the whole deal for me.

5 posted on 05/14/2006 1:37:39 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: LouAvul
Yes, they may be spread thin, but guarding the nation at the border, where it needs guarding, is not the role of the National Guard?!?!
6 posted on 05/14/2006 1:39:29 PM PDT by luvbach1 (More true now than ever: Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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To: LouAvul

"....National Guard troops cannot secure the border over the long term and that he does not think it is wise even in the short term"

Is he saying border security yet another job Americans won't do?


7 posted on 05/14/2006 1:39:43 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: LouAvul
Government troops ordered to stand down by politically correct cowardly politicians will not stop illegal immigration but this will:
8 posted on 05/14/2006 1:39:52 PM PDT by Buffettfan (VIVA LA MIGRA! - LONG LIVE THE MINUTEMEN!)
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To: LS

I'm getting ready for the President's speech by having a supply of flash bags for my Monday poker gang.


9 posted on 05/14/2006 1:40:07 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: LouAvul

The title is wrong.

You mis-spelled "weenies".


10 posted on 05/14/2006 1:41:51 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Mariner

Absolutelty. First, stop the flood. Next, bail it out. Finally, make sure it doesn't leak again. The bailing out part might be the most difficult--but also the most rewarding for this country.


11 posted on 05/14/2006 1:43:31 PM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: LouAvul

Chuck Hagel,,, making another early bid for the RINO of the Week Award.


12 posted on 05/14/2006 1:45:01 PM PDT by UncleSamUSA (the land of the free and the home of the brave)
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To: LouAvul
Hagel said the bill under debate in the Senate that he helped write would double the 12,000-strong Border Patrol force over the next five years.

Didn't we double the border patrol over the last 5 years? How much good did that do us? Until the source of the jobs dries up then people will flock into the country legally or illegally. And all the border patrol and all the National guardsmen in the country won't stem it. The only way to do it is to start tossing the employers in jail and shutting down their operations and making it clear that if they violate the law then they will go to prison.

13 posted on 05/14/2006 1:46:43 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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Enforcement worries cowardly elites in Washington D.C.

Usually intent to enforce the law only worries those breaking the law, and those abetting the lawbreakers. Which side are you on hagel? As if I don't know. Biden?

BTW, from here...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1632125/posts

VOTERS ARE GIVING OPEN-BORDERS FOLKS A LOT OF GRIEF -- Cannon story

Rep. Cannon's problems today are similar to what we are saying in many locales across the country. Voters are starting to make a real difference.

A couple of years ago, Cannon was bragging that he was the White House point man in the House for Bush's efforts for a guestworker/amnesty program.

He appeared at the National Council of La Raza to receive an award for his championing of illegal aliens and he was widely quoted in national media giving the reasons why illegal aliens are good for America.

Two years ago, Matt Throckmorton kept Cannon from getting the 60% of GOP convention votes necessary to go on the ballot in the fall. That is almost unheard of for an incumbent Congressman, but Cannon's immigration positions gave Throckmorton a good handle to turn. Cannon went on to win the primary but with only 58% of the Republican voters supporting him.

Ever since then, Cannon has been a little more careful and has voted pretty well on enforcement issues while continuing to push for amnesties and massive guestworker programs.

Political newcomer John Jacob (a wealthy land developer) mounted a strong challenge to Cannon based on his support for amnesty and not only denied Cannon his 60% but actually beat him 52-48.

That means the Republican voters of Utah's 3rd Congressional District will get a chance to cast a clear immigration vote a month from now, deciding whether Cannon or Jacob will be the Republican nominee on the November ballot.

This is a huge development, especially since the Wall Street Journal and Grover Norquist have been claiming for a couple of years that Cannon's victory in '04 was proof that our immigration-reduction message just can't win at the polls.

Jacob needs to be better still on immigration. All of you in Utah need to really press him to become a clearer champion of our issues. To send him an immigration survey, click here.

We had another victory at the polls in the last week in Nebraska.

Congressman Tom Osborne lost his primary attempt to run for governor. As a long-time hero football coach of the Nebraska Cornhuskers, with huge margins of victory in the past and with an endorsement by Sen. McCain just before the primary, Osborne had looked like a sure thing.

But he lost. And even he said that one of the main reasons for his loss was his support for in-state tuition for illegal aliens. His opponent stood firm against providing incentives for illegal aliens.

Osborne was a lackluster Member of Congress on our issues, with a B-minus. He wasn't that bad. But Nebraska voters made it clear that they prefer somebody a little more excited about protecting them from out-of-control immigration.

BTW, McCain spoke at the Utah convention before the vote on Cannon. McCain did his usual plea for a massive guestworker program (which, for him, includes citizenship for illegal aliens and future guestworkers). Cannon has been one of the most enthusiastic supporters in the House for solutions like the ones offered by McCain.

If McCain had an effect on the delegates, it was to remind them why they didn't like Cannon.

The Herndon, Virginia City Council was overturned by the voters over immigration.

The decision by the Herdon City Council to use public funds to set up a center for mostly illegal-alien day laborers created a controversy that got national attention.

But when the mayor and city council members came up for re-election, the voters through out all but one of the incumbents seeking re-election. The mayor is gone. The new mayor and five of the six council members was elected on a platform of opposing providing incentives to illegal aliens.






14 posted on 05/14/2006 1:47:46 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Self Admitted BorderBot: Be Heard: Send a Brick: http://www.send-a-brick.com/brick.htm)
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To: LouAvul

Mother and daughter murdered by illegal alien in Nashville last month...how many more Americans have to die at the hands of illegals while these idiots in Washington screw around?


15 posted on 05/14/2006 1:48:17 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (New England...the Sodom and Gomorrah of the 21st Century, and they're proud of it!)
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To: UncleSamUSA

Hagel can be RINO and WEENIE of the week!


16 posted on 05/14/2006 1:48:30 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: LouAvul
The criticism came from Democrats, but also an important Republican.... Sen. Chuck Hagel

LOL! Wow, that was the easiest call of the day!

17 posted on 05/14/2006 1:49:39 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Stay home in November and let the Democrats build that wall lickety split!)
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To: LouAvul

Surprise Surprise. RINO Hagel is part of the Open borders lobby.


18 posted on 05/14/2006 1:50:57 PM PDT by Rosemont (It's not too late to arrest Senator "Chappaquiddick" Kennedy)
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To: Buffettfan

Your illustration leaves out the laser cannon and the flip-flop override, not to mention the Goop Gas and Fenutney rods.


19 posted on 05/14/2006 1:51:18 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Stay home in November and let the Democrats build that wall lickety split!)
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To: LouAvul
"We've got to secure our borders," Frist said on CNN's "Late Edition.

well....DUH! ....Just get back from Pluto Dr. Frist?

20 posted on 05/14/2006 1:51:22 PM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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