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(Dutch ) MP Told She Is 'Not Citizen'
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 5-17-2006 | Joan Clements

Posted on 05/16/2006 7:14:31 PM PDT by blam

MP told she is 'not a citizen'

By Joan Clements in The Hague
(Filed: 17/05/2006)

The Dutch MP who lied to gain asylum fought back tears yesterday as she confirmed she was resigning her seat after being told her citizenship may be withdrawn.

Somalian-born Ayaan Hirsi Ali also said she was leaving for America. She said her job was now "impossible" after a "shocking" letter from Rita Verdonk, the immigration minister, saying Miss Hirsi Ali could no longer consider herself Dutch because of the lies she told the immigration authorities in 1992.


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KEYWORDS: dutch; mp; notcitizen; told
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To: nmh

If I was fleeing genital mutilation, I'd lie too. So there.


41 posted on 05/16/2006 7:30:34 PM PDT by cyborg (I just love that man.)
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To: dynachrome
"Miss Hirsi Ali, 36, lives under constant police guard, after receiving death threats for her criticisms of the treatment of women in Islam (her own religion), a stance that won her many fans in Europe and America.

A film she scripted about abuse of women, Submission, led to the brutal murder of its director, Theo van Gogh, in 2004, by a Muslim extremist." (from a link in the article)

Thank you for posting that information. So the Dutch are looking for a way to get her out of their country. They are desperately trying to avoid any violence, even if it means sacrificing a very brave woman.

42 posted on 05/16/2006 7:33:26 PM PDT by Rocky (Air America: Robbing the poor to feed the Left)
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To: blam

This is incredible. Literally, I guess.


43 posted on 05/16/2006 7:34:13 PM PDT by jocon307 (The Silent Majority - silent no longer)
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To: blam

She is a very brave woman, and I think we should be glad to have her in our country.


44 posted on 05/16/2006 7:34:43 PM PDT by Madison Moose
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To: Rocky

"even if it means sacrificing a very brave woman"
The islam-o-nazis hate her. this is a bit more appeasement by the Dutch.


45 posted on 05/16/2006 7:35:30 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: blam

Just what we need: another lying politician

No doubt she'll register to vote as a Dimocrat - in New Orleans.


46 posted on 05/16/2006 7:40:08 PM PDT by Redbob
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To: blinachka; Veronica Mars

I have never heard of this woman. Dont lump me in with the immigration thread hijackers, please. She lied, gained a government position, was caught and is now coming here. What was anyone supposed to think? Lying is still lying. Buthey, if you are Ok with it, that makes it all right, I guess..


47 posted on 05/16/2006 7:41:09 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Kerry-Mcarthy in 2008!)
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To: blam

Hey we don't care if you lie, cheat, commit fraud, etc. Come on in!


48 posted on 05/16/2006 7:41:44 PM PDT by sheana
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To: Jemian; Veronica Mars
Or how about by people, like me, who only know about her from what is in the blurb posted. All I knew about her is that she is from Somalia and lied to gain citizenship in the Netherlands. We have enough immigrants here. Instead of quickly condemning us, present the case as to why we would want her.

For real. Theres an awful lot of newbies calling people trolls around here these days..

49 posted on 05/16/2006 7:43:22 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Kerry-Mcarthy in 2008!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

"...her presence in their country created the risk that she could cause an insurrection among their very large muslim population'

Bingo! Appeasement is always popular.


50 posted on 05/16/2006 7:43:58 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: blam
The MP has in fact long admitted lying to the Dutch authorities in 1992 about her name, her age, and the fact that she did not flee directly to Holland from Somalia. She presented those omissions as necessary lies to obtain refugee status.

Interesting that she has long ago admitted to the lies - made back when she was 22 - but just now at this moment some Dutch bureaucrat - who also just happens to be running for the party leadership - has decided it's time to go after her. This article seems to raise more questions than it answers.

51 posted on 05/16/2006 7:44:03 PM PDT by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
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To: cyborg
If I was fleeing genital mutilation, I'd lie too. So there.

The blub posted said nothing about that. I just now found out that this is the woman Van Gogh did his movie about..

52 posted on 05/16/2006 7:45:08 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Kerry-Mcarthy in 2008!)
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To: blam

It was bad she lied, but she also is one of the few people that stands up to the radical and violent aspects of Islam, and worked with the van Gogh murdered a couple years ago on that documentary. If anything, this is just another example of the double standard rampant within many countries' immigration departments.


53 posted on 05/16/2006 7:47:05 PM PDT by figgers3036
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To: AntiGuv

Generally ditto.


54 posted on 05/16/2006 7:47:17 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu (Monocultural United States)
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To: msnimje; blam; SunkenCiv

"This is the bravest woman in all of Europe!"

Their loss; our gain.


55 posted on 05/16/2006 7:48:54 PM PDT by dervish (Never forget Zion)
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To: JerseyHighlander
Not the best troll ever, but topical and brief. oneliners might be your ticket out of the poorhouse.

You also have to give him credit for staying around too. Most trolls post their idiocy and then cut and run. This guy's been good for a few laughs at least.

56 posted on 05/16/2006 7:51:12 PM PDT by RepoGirl ("That boy just ain't right..." Hank Hill)
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To: cyborg
If I was fleeing genital mutilation, I'd lie too. So there.

I didn't know that happened in Kenya, like I didn't know that Kenya was considered a Muslim country.

Actually according to goggle Kenya is 38% protestant, 28% roman catholic and 6% Muslim. I do think someone is floating some BS.

57 posted on 05/16/2006 7:52:09 PM PDT by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
Her neighbors had complained that living next to her was an unacceptable security risk for them.

She's welcome to live next to me. She'd be welcome at my table anytime.

I do find it a bit sad that the immigration issue has become such an idee fixe in the eyes of some FReepers that they would not offer sanctuary to a woman run out of Europe by the death threats of Islamists and the cowardice of the Dutch. Time, I suggest, for a few deep breaths and a little perspective. Just IMHO.

58 posted on 05/16/2006 7:53:29 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: org.whodat

pssst she's from Somalia.


59 posted on 05/16/2006 7:56:29 PM PDT by usmcobra (Marines out of uniform might as well be nude, since they can no longer be recognized as Marines.)
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To: org.whodat

I don't know if that's what she was facing, but if I was in some desperate situation, I'd lie. Such moral superiority as if people have never told a lie.


60 posted on 05/16/2006 7:56:31 PM PDT by cyborg (I just love that man.)
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