Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog
Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]
Once again, LM was not saying he/she wanted border security FIRST. I was replying to Onyx, who was talking about border security FIRST.
My comment is simple. It means punishing the party which is closest to conservatives' positions is INSANITY.
The howls around here are NOT for more "effective" leadership. A FR poll shows 10% hate Bush and 20% want to turn the whole shootin match over to the RATs.
The first immigration bill which passed 55-40 CLEARLY shows that the problem here is NOT the GOP it is and always has been the Party of Treason. Expecting 100% agreement within the GOP is an absurd expectation. This is not a totalitarian organization.
Using your logic the RATs aren't so bad since 8 of them also voted against it.
A 'triple-layered' fence according to the article.
Past that, I have no idea.
Neither have I seen a moderator take one side to this extent.
Not clear on whom you are referring to as traitors.
Exactly.
Well, they usually take some time and effort to organize and it's not at all clear to me that, if it comes down to that, they'd be able to pull off a discharge petition before the session ends. You are right though that it's a definite possibility.
Wow...you've been a member how long and know PukinDog so well.
Amen, brother!
And you signed up today to create and post that graphic??
BWAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!
Mods, can we keep this one and tease him a little? Pleeeeeeease....?!
Ahhhh. Thanks.
Seems to me, that we ought to start deducting say $10,000-25,000 from remittances back to Mexico for every assault on the fence, perhaps for every illegal that gets across.
If we don't sock Mexico where it hurts the ruling elite there, hard to fight it all on the border.
Exactly right, and if you noticed today, she and Murray voted against the Session amendment regarding the fence.
I will admit, that is a far better grade of troll then we've been getting lately.
"I think a universal ID card with strong sanctions for hiring illegals would be a lot more effective, however."
National ID card, eh?
"Police, vos papiers, s'il vous plait!"
Bush and the Senate Republicans can't go after employers too hard. It will damage the business base. They have a delicate balancing act to do here. Unfortunately, on Monday night the President didn't balance anything and repeated his previous position using prettier words.
The BorderBots got nothing and they know it.
No amnesty, EVER, is what some BorderBots want...but that's too hard and too mean for the rest of the electorate. Can't do that.
A national ID card in order to work will freak out libertarians. Not only that, but remember that the business base wants to keep the cheap labor.
But a Fence...an Isreali-style wall out in the middle of nowhere...well, THAT takes care of the problem of flow long term, without sending in the cops after business contributors, without damaging the existing labor pool, which is being utilized for a profit, and without making Americans have to carry papers in order to work like the French do.
The Fence is the Solomonic compromise here.
Also, it starts saving more money than it costs right away, because wherever you build it, illegals go elsewhere to cross, and as it becomes more complete, fewer leave Oaxaca in the first place. Fewer illegals means dramatically lower social welfare expenditures.'
Give them the Fence, and over the long run America remains Anglo-Saxon, English speaking, and blue collar Americans will have greater job stability...long term.
Short term, the BorderBots all come out and vote for the GOP in November because the Democrats will stop building the Fence.
The Fence is the saving move.
Well just look at how many replies were posted AFTER I bumped the thread!!
:-P
( Actually, it was just a bookmark so I could find it later on my pings list. I like Pukin Dog's posts. I'm naming my next dog "Pukin" )
WOW -- poopy-doo slipped right by me.
Retread.
They just can't stay away. They're obssessed with FR.
Pathetic afers.
Wave to your afer pals at the cheap imitation forums, poodle-de-doo.
Not clear on whom you are referring to as traitors.
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Sorry.
Terrible for an ESL teacher.
Uhhh . . . a parot speaking the Bill of Rights and voting in Congress according to the Bill of Rights would be infecting people with truth
a lot more constructive to The Republic
than traitors Feinstein, Boxerface et al who infect people with globalist, Marxist, Machiavellian tyranny lies and delusions.
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