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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

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To: Mo1; AntiGuv

My pal antiguv thinks Hagel is the greatest. Don't mess with my pal. He has a razor sharp mind. :) You will regret it. Sorry to jerk your chain antiguv, but I just had the irresistible impulse. What is the Vitter amendment by the way?


881 posted on 05/17/2006 11:10:38 AM PDT by Torie
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To: Toby06
nobody is even looking.

Nobody's looking? So who is making all those arrests? Who are these Minutemen people?

882 posted on 05/17/2006 11:10:51 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: Jim Robinson
Would you like some cheese with your whine?

Another classy retort.
883 posted on 05/17/2006 11:11:01 AM PDT by squishy (Add Men Modder Ate Her? I mean, why would they do such a thing?)
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To: Fudd Fan; Republican Red
It has gotten to the point that I come on Free Republic less and less. That's why the trolls have been flourishing... I'm guilty of that too but I intend to rectify it.

I think I read a Mod saying that posts meant to hijack non-immigration threads would be pulled.

Maybe the solution is for all of us to report attempted hijacks as we run across them. Generally I don't like to swamp the Mods, but good people are leaving FR while others are accomplishing their goal of making FR look like a loony bin, which undermines the conservative cause.

Look at all the good FR has accomplished over the years. If we allow the trolls to take over, all that will be lost.

884 posted on 05/17/2006 11:11:09 AM PDT by alnick
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To: pbrown

You also must have missed the Malaysian "Massage" (actually "manual stimulation" would be a more appropriate term) on Sunday morning.


885 posted on 05/17/2006 11:11:10 AM PDT by Toby06 (I'm a conservative-I'll support conservative candidates. That does NOT necessarily mean republican)
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To: The_Victor

The Democrats ARE communists. There are many good patriotic Democrats who love this country, and are UNAWARE that their party is partially funded by and often led by out-and-out Communists. I don't know how old you are, TV, but I've been watching the spread of communism in this country for over fifty years. Anyone who votes for a democrat now is being duped into losing their rights, including free speech, and everything else guaranteed to us by the Bill of Rights.


886 posted on 05/17/2006 11:11:33 AM PDT by kitkat (The first step down to hell is to deny the existence of evil.)
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To: Toby06

So, seal the freaking borders already. Doubt many here are arguing against it.


887 posted on 05/17/2006 11:11:40 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: squishy
Are you a masochist?
888 posted on 05/17/2006 11:12:01 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: squishy
Another classy retort.

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Give it a rest, friend.

889 posted on 05/17/2006 11:12:03 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: onyx

"Nothing like poll watching."

I don't watch polls.
I listen to people.
Here. On Rush. On Laura. At work. On the weekend. On my own various conversational threads elsewhere.

BorderBots on their fence are like I am about pro-life judges.

The polls will even lie and tell you the President scooped it out. One poll published today said that just 2% of opponents to the President - 2%! - oppose him primarily on immigration issues. That sort of poll is a willful attempt to drown the truth. But the poll in November will tell the true tale.

And so am I, now, in the hopes that enough people will listen and come to their senses.

Give the BorderBots their FENCE, and we WIN for sure.
Don't, and we probably lose.
That then, in 2007, we'll turn around and put the Fence in the platform so that we'll win in 2008 is a good consolation prize.
But I don't like losing any battles at all.
We don't HAVE to lose in November, but we DO have to lose if we don't bring back the BorderBots.
And the only thing we can give that can do that is their Fence.

So let's not bicker, and agree that the party needs to give them their fence, so that we don't have to give them the fence anyway, as the minority, in 2007.


890 posted on 05/17/2006 11:12:06 AM PDT by Vicomte13 (Aure entuluva!)
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To: Peach

Then what IS a lie?



891 posted on 05/17/2006 11:12:11 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (If its such a great idea, lets see how well the capital and white house do with a virtual fence.)
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To: Toby06
So letting in a ton of Al-quaeda through our unguarded mexican border is a good policy?

The SOUTHERN BORDER cries for security from illegal invasion. Worry more about the Northern border for A-Q.

Try to be honest, you suggested landmines. Totally unacceptable, and that was the reason your comment was deleted.

892 posted on 05/17/2006 11:12:28 AM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Coop

I am not questioning that, never have. I'm sure I heard it also.

So, your point? Please follow the series of posts and replies, to avoid misundersanding.

I have also heard the alternative that I posted.


893 posted on 05/17/2006 11:13:03 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
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To: Peach

Many of the ones that claimed they wanted troops out now were put on the spot to spot to VOTE that way and when push came to shove they refused. There was no trick, just a simple vote that could be judged on its merits.

Please notice that almost all the pull out now crowd was hushed at that time. Sure some still call for it now and they are akin to the ones in Iraq that when we do finally pull out will claim they were right all along and that their actions drove us out.

Israel deals with that very thing and look what was claimed when they did leave Gaza!

Many will talk impeachment but very very few will actually persue it. I dare them to try.


894 posted on 05/17/2006 11:13:15 AM PDT by BlueStateDepression
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To: Lead Moderator
Yeah, I sure hate when we veer from family-friendly stuff like box cars, mining the borders, shooting all immigrants on sight...stuff like that.

And guess what? That is a small minority of the posts made asking for greater border security. Just as folks on my side of the debate objected strenuously to the idiotic Vox Day column today.

895 posted on 05/17/2006 11:13:35 AM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: trubluolyguy

Condemning both Bush presidencies. You're a troll.


896 posted on 05/17/2006 11:14:01 AM PDT by Peach (DICC's - doing the work for the DNC)
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To: texas_mrs
I just hope we can find enough who aren't going all squishy on us

Excuse me?!?


lol
897 posted on 05/17/2006 11:14:15 AM PDT by squishy (Add Men Modder Ate Her? I mean, why would they do such a thing?)
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To: Coop
nobody is even looking. Nobody's looking? So who is making all those arrests? Who are these Minutemen people?

Conservative (small "c" conservative, that is)estimates are there are 11 million ecomnomic terrorists from mexico. If only 1% were alquaeda, that would still be more than we killed in Iraq. Nobody knows, because the flow is obviously free if 11 million can pour through. Damn, I can heardly sneak in a couple cases of real Labatts Blue, these guys sneak in their whole families!

898 posted on 05/17/2006 11:14:17 AM PDT by Toby06 (I'm a conservative-I'll support conservative candidates. That does NOT necessarily mean republican)
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To: lemura

Something to think about. We do not intend to be taken over by that third world country. If we will go to Iraq to protect this country - we may have to go to Mexico to protect it.

And, it would probably be a lot, lot cheaper. But, hey, this is just talk - it will never happen. The dems would be upset.


899 posted on 05/17/2006 11:14:24 AM PDT by ClancyJ (To cause a democrat to win is the most effective way to destroy this country.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I think I should part company with you for the time being. Please suspend my account until after the 2006 elections.

At that point the significance of the immigration issue will have revealed itself via the polls.

Regards,
Rb.


900 posted on 05/17/2006 11:14:31 AM PDT by Rebelbase (" Bush II: What's good for Mexico is good for America." --FReeper, Vigilanteman.)
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