Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog
Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]
When did the Conservatives turn into economic protectionists? The modern true Conservative believes that the perfect America has razor wire and guard towers on the Southern border and closed ports on both coasts. They believe that if you are for free markets than you are an evil Globalist. They seem to think that there is nothing to be gained from trading with the other countries or that we cannot compete in the World Market. Nothing can be further from the truth or away from Conservative ideals.
President Reagan believed in the power of Capitalism and was a free trader to his core. Ronald Reagan always said gummit never solves problems, gummit is the problem. He knew that America could trade with any Country in the World and always attempted to maintain a level playing field. He was not always able to do that but he did get many tariffs removed from our trading partners as well as lowering our own to reduce taxes and inflation. He was the originator of NAFTA knowing that Capitalism would defeat Communism on our Continent. He realized that Tarriffs mostly hurt the Country that places these taxes on imports. He didn’t win the Cold War with the A-Bomb, but with the Gut-bomb from McDonalds.
Conservatives are always for a smaller gummit, however the modern Conservative/Libertarian is for a limited govt until their Steer is being algored. They are quick to add layers of bureaucracy to enforce the borders or protect our traditional industries. Just as we saw with the U.A.E. taking over running our port terminals the Conservatives in this Country were not willing to look at the entire package but emotionally tied it to sealing the borders and pretended the Arags were going to compromise our security. These small gummit talkers are willing to ignore an efficient management company to be replaced with another inefficient Port Hog Trough.
The Border Freaks would happily trade any economic advantage of having cheap labor for the emotional high of keeping Mexicans out. They preach how the Mexicans are taking American jobs in the face of the fact that there is full employment in this Country. The economy is running at full speed yet they want to eliminate this cheap commodity that is needed by labor intensive industries. The Protectionists have points about security and law enforcement, yet will veto any suggestions short of Electric Fences, Guard Towers and Mexican round-ups. They will not even allow a discussion of Immigration without expulsion and closed borders. These are the same people who are against NAFTA and the World Economy. When did the Conservative movement get taken over by Central Planners in Economics?
The real irony of this switch is that if you are a laize faire capitalist, then you are some sort of liberal Globalist? Nothing could be further from the truth since this is a complete reversal of the true foundation of the Conservative movement. The movement has been hijacked by the Protectionists who have forgotten what makes this Country great which is pure Capitalism. The basis of capitalism says that there is a perfect market that is controlled by supply and demand. It says that the market will maintain and police itself since information is or will become known and companies will do what’s in their best interest. Market and community forces will make the company act efficiently as well as ethically.
This is the building block of Conservative economics to minimize gummit taxes and regulations from the market. Whenever the politicians get involved there is an inefficiency that develops slowing the wheels of commerce. Conservatism used to lower these barriers to business and let the markets maintain and grow themselves in as open an environment as possible. There are still many Conservatives who don’t know that Business has more forces pulling them other than pure profit. Businesses must also be good stewards in their Communities whether it be locally or Globally which is why ethical companies will succeed over the long run.
The Dubai port management buyout and the Immigration problem are both parts of the same economic problem. Being the 300 lb gorilla in the world economy, we are the Dodge Hemi that powers the world. We are importing millions of containers of goods to feed our endless appetite for cheap goods and services. To bring those containers across the dock those ports realized they needed to become more efficient or the shippers will find ports that can do it cheaper and/or more efficiently. Enter Dubai who is the leader in port management specialization worldwide. They would have reorganized and modernized these ports to make them competitive with other ports on the East Coast. This is how capitalism works by finding the most efficient way of providing a product or service. Now shippers will go to the cheaper ports.
Similarly, illegal immigrants are coming to our Country to find work and feed their families just as humans have done for thousands of years. The same way we change jobs or careers for a few thousand dollars these people are coming here for a few hundred. Labor is a limited commodity just like oil or steel to produce a product that a business owner needs to stay competitive. This means he has to produce that product as efficiently as possible to keep his prices down. If he has a higher price than his competition, he will miss the sales putting him on the streets.
When your main expense is labor then that is where you are going to look to cut. As you add in related expenses such as Workman’s Comp, insurance, vacation and all the regulations, Mexican labor becomes a necessity. So now we have the situation we are in with many Mexican families being permanent residents in this Country thanks to a red hot economy combined with a labor shortage. The isolationists would like to click their heels and make this reality go away, but that is only a pipe dream. Ronald Reagan attempted to deal with this problem when he installed a plan that was far more lenient than President Bush’ with Illegals. Why? Because he understood the competitive economics of Manuel Mexical and his relationship to labor heavy industry. Reagan would have been tarred and feathered by the Modern Conservatives.
It is time to put away our Global Economic fears and address them with the realization that we are the most powerful and strongest economy in the World. We may not have the labor cost advantages but we are far more creative and efficient workforce than any other Country. By making the field level on both sides we can compete with anyone, anywhere. Walls only hurt the people behind them, just look at Japan’s cost of living and ask yourselves if you can afford $4 apples and $20/lb beef with $5/lb rice? That is where the Globalist Fear Mongers want to take us, while Dubai, Manuel Mexical and President Reagan would rather have You control those prices.
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Case in point. Maybe if you cover your eyes and ears we won't be in a World Economy. Fact is we have the best economy we have had in our history as is the entire world.
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I intend to comment, and will, in extenso.
However, in order to comment in full and answer you in every aspect of the socio-political issue of economics, I need to know one more key fact: what is your religion?
Sorry, this is hardly one world globalism, this is what true capitalism is. It is called specialization and industry going where the markets are for labor and other cheap commodities. You calling me a Globalist is just a cheap trick to dehuminize anyone who disagrees with you. Where is all that unemployment your talking about, we are at 4.5% which is full employment with the highest paying jobs ever.
As for this Country, we have never been stronger or produced more in the history of our Country. Liberalism, you are the one preaching the gummit coming in and becoming a centralized planner. I always figure when you guys resort to calling people liberal after posting pure capitalism you have nothing to offer, which you don't.
Let's see you want a minimum wage, living wage, protectionism, and an end to world trade. Yeah you really sound Conservative. Must be foggy up in that Conservative Ivory Tower.
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With a comment like that you are already a pretty sick individual. Unless we all Goose-step with you we all deserve to die. Your blind hatred is a pretty ugly thing to see. Nice talking to you, good riddance.
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Don't like being reminded of all the things that come along with this 'cheap labor', eh? How about increased murders and rapes? And hard drugs? American citizens who now live in fear in once-quiet neighborhoods or rural areas?
Doesn't even touch on all that is happening in the schools and the hospitals.
No I would never wish anybody would die no matter how much I disagreed with them, but that's just me.
So what are you going to do about "cheap" labor? You going to raise the minimum wage to $50/hr? Why not 100? You going to outlaw poverty? What exactly are you going to do to solve poverty and the need for cheap labor? Maybe you should outlaw farming? Be specific.
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So like everyone else here you have no answer how to replace those workers. How is it to be so negative and angry all the time?? No thanks.
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Wrong, if 26% of the agriculture industry is made up of Illegals, whatcha going to do after you deport 26% of the workers. Watch the crops rot in the field and farmers declare bankruptcy. After the food prices double then what?
So actually I do care about this Country and am a Bootstrap Republican. You got some more names to call me, these are getting pretty weak really. Only proves you lost the argument.
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What I don't understand is why anyone who hates GWB as much as you would have his name?? The only thing I can come up with is that you have always hated him and grabbed his name. Are you from the DNC??
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Actually, my criticisms of the president are pretty mild and well within the conservative mainstream.
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