[onyx]

Now, next question - should Bush be called to task for wanting a guest worker program before the borders are anywhere close to secure (I am not demanding an airtight border, but one where an illegal has a better than 50-50 chance of getting caught).

WHY waste time calling on POTUS? You know that snarky remarks of "Jorge and traitor" are not 'calling on him.'

Did you hear his speech? IMO, he's come around about as much as he's going to.

I have spent my time writing to all GOP senators and to House members who I deemed are the toughest ones to hold the line.

I take heart today, that Senator Sessions' amendment passed!

[SeaBiscuit]

"Did you hear his speech? IMO, he's come around about as much as he's going to."

That is defeatist.. everyone is capable of some improvement if they care to listen. There is nothing wrong with trying to encourage the President to "come around" a little more.. as long as it's done in a civil and sane manner.


"I take heart today, that Senator Sessions' amendment passed!"

That was good news. Which is why we need to encourage the GOP.. since some of them don't seem to be too sure of what they are supposed to stand for.. Americans.