[Beagle8U]

"I resist the idea it is the jobs that americans refuse but rather it is the wages offered for those jobs. Change the wages thru free market scales that are balanced on both sides ( employeee versus employer) and I offer that americans would indeed take those jobs."

That is a just and reasonable point, but you also need to look at "going rate" and "world market".

There is a point where business's will just close, and things will be imported.

Stoop labor veggie pick/planting is a good example of that. It pays about $10 an hour for anyone willing to do it, few legal Americans will sign up for that 60+ hours a week.

Double it to $20 an hour and some will, but the point is moot because the local farm closes and things just get imported.

Its not as easy as some think.

[BlueStateDepression]

Let things be imported and let the prices raise.

People can decline buying these things for either or both reasons. That is also part of the free market.

Just so you know ten bucks an hour is a decent non government, non lawyer, non doctor wage in this neck of the woods. But guess what, at the hog rendering plant they pay almost 16 an hour and y9ou wanna know why it is almost all mexican labor there? The non mexican folks got so fed up with all the illegals and all the spanish that they just refused to work there anymore.

One thing we agree on, for opposing reasons.....it really isn't as simple as some make it out to be.