"A serious discussion of workable options to solve the problems is needed and good minds are needed. Let us know when a legimate immigration discussion is posted. I don't believe it can be done."
I think it was OhioWfan that started just such a thread the other day. It was quite good, with little bashing or attacks.
HERE is my thread on immigration.
It was at least 90% positive, and has some very good, practical suggestions as to things we can do to help solve the problem.
Take a look, Clancy. You may be pleasantly surprised. Freepers CAN be civil to each others........people with different views participated, and I think some real good came out of it.