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Even though you KNOW that what I said was that I don't ask people if they are illegals, it was still wrong to do, and I have stopped the practice. If you had been paying attention, I have changed my position on immigration as well. But if you want to continue to mischaracterize what I said, I guess that is your right. If you think I am not a Conservative, go back and read what I said about scorpions.

Pukin, I have not seen any posts on your part, which reflect a change of position on illegal aliens, but I will take your word and I applaud you for that. That said, I don't believe I mischaracterized what you said, nor did I see what you said about scorpions, but I don't see any point in belaboring the issue.

We do need to be respectful and not divisive. However, illegal immigration is a major issue being debated in the House, Senate, and at lower levels of government. It is a divisive issue, but then so was the Mier's appointment. It is easy to say, "Let's be pragmatic, and allow amnesty." That however is like trying to sweep an elephant under your rug. The long term consequences are too profound, and many wanting amnesty want to stop the debate. Let's be respectful, but continue with the debate.

My policy with day-laborers was "dont ask, dont tell" and I have made that point many, many times. We wont be 'allowing amnesty', if anything, we will be taking our lumps for those we selected in the Senate (Hagel) who would put forward such a sucky bill in the first place. We can punish them all in the primaries without giving the Democrats a victory.

Pukin, I have not seen any posts on your part, which reflect a change of position on illegal aliens, but I will take your word and I applaud you for that.

I was a witness to it. The conversion was stunning given that PD had been fighting for some time with those opposed to illegal immigration. He'd even admitted to hiring illegal aliens and stated that he'd do it again. But he saw the ugliness of the marxist-organized marches of illegal aliens in our streets, he heard the words of the march organizers and the leaders of their movement, and he had an epiphany. Others have had that same epiphany much earlier, it will come to others later. PD has come a long way on this issue. So has the President. Both could stand to move a little further on this issue, but we have to be patient and let it happen.

It is a divisive issue, but then so was the Mier's appointment. It is easy to say, "Let's be pragmatic, and allow amnesty." That however is like trying to sweep an elephant under your rug. The long term consequences are too profound, and many wanting amnesty want to stop the debate. Let's be respectful, but continue with the debate.

Amen.