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To: AntiGuv
The bottom line: Bush needs to persuade about 40 House members to change their minds on a guest/temporary/amnesty/whatever program.

So, in other words, Bush is counting on broad support from the Dems to pass his immigration agenda.

Which means all the yelling at the border security folks that they want the Dems to win is absurd - because the man they are backing on this issue, President Bush, is allied WITH THE DEMS.

2,727 posted on 05/18/2006 6:10:18 AM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: dirtboy
Which means all the yelling at the border security folks that they want the Dems to win is absurd - because the man they are backing on this issue, President Bush, is allied WITH THE DEMS.

No, it means that President Bush is allied with the Republican Senate over the the Republican House on this ONE issue. The Democrats want to IMPEACH President Bush. To say without any qualification he is allied with them is false, period.

2,729 posted on 05/18/2006 6:14:54 AM PDT by mjolnir ("All great change in America begins at the dinner table.")
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To: dirtboy
So, in other words, Bush is counting on broad support from the Dems to pass his immigration agenda.

Which means all the yelling at the border security folks that they want the Dems to win is absurd

This point could stand to be made a few more times, for the benefit of the hard-of-thinking.

2,743 posted on 05/18/2006 6:37:47 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: dirtboy
>>>>>So, in other words, Bush is counting on broad support from the Dems to pass his immigration agenda.

Exactly. Bush couldn't pass the Senate's McCain-Kennedy immigration proposal without strong support from the Democrats. The recent Senate votes prove that. Instead of backing the passage of HR4437, Bush wants to grant amnesty and offer a path to citizenship to 15 million criminal border crossers and millions of their kinfolk.

>>>>Which means all the yelling at the border security folks that they want the Dems to win is absurd - because the man they are backing on this issue, President Bush, is allied WITH THE DEMS.

Right. Bush is allied with the Democrats on this issue and his supporters are backing a highly liberal immigration policy.

The historic record is quite clear. After PresReagan signed the IRCA amnesty of 1986 into law, Ted Kennedy proceeded to underfund the employer sanction provisions, followed by 20 years of Bush41, Clinton and Bush43 NOT enforcing the law of the land.

Here we go again.

2,749 posted on 05/18/2006 6:55:39 AM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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