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To: CWOJackson

"Wrong, and you want to know why? Because the President has already set the national agenda on border and immigration reform and all it takes is a quick scan through the numerous immigration threads on FR at this very instance and you will see it's not enough for this core of single issue voters."

The President has set his policies.
And those policies are the ANTITHESIS of everything the BorderBots have been saying they want for months and months.

So, what has happened is that the President has set an unnacceptable agenda to these people, and to the Republican House of Representatives, and he is going to be blocked in implementing that.

Now, as with Miers, he can either back down and retool and offer something acceptable, or he can be stubborn, put the plane into a jam dive, and we all crash and burn in November.

I don't want to crash and burn, but the President's immigration agenda cannot stand. It is too offensive to Border Conservatives. They aren't going to back it. And without them, there is no Republican majority.


2,761 posted on 05/18/2006 7:17:37 AM PDT by Vicomte13 (Aure entuluva!)
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To: Vicomte13
Now, as with Miers, he can either back down and retool and offer something acceptable, or he can be stubborn, put the plane into a jam dive, and we all crash and burn in November.

In the case of a nomination I accept that he had total power to resign the nomination and offer another. Per the constitution it is his call to nominate. On the contrary, law is formed by the Congress and signed or vetoed by the president. This meaning really we have an opposite situation here.

W's true test will be wether or not he gets a bill that he actually agrees with and signs, or if he vetos it. It all rides on what comes out of conference. In this example of immigration reform the ball rests with Congress and W was proper to state as such in his speech.
2,788 posted on 05/18/2006 7:58:35 AM PDT by BlueStateDepression
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To: Vicomte13
"So, what has happened is that the President has set an unnacceptable agenda to these people..."

NOTHING is acceptible to those people, which is why THEY are unacceptible to the process. The sooner they can either act like adults and accept that they ARE NOT going to get exactly what they want and work with what they get, the better for them. Until then they can curl up in a corner with their hankys between bouts of screaming fits.

2,843 posted on 05/18/2006 9:14:52 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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