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To: Aquinasfan

“What the Constitution grants is not the right to convert another person to one’s own religion, but to transmit or spread one’s religion by an exposition of its tenets,”

What's the difference? This makes about as much sense as US Supreme Court decisions.

Makes perfect sense to everybody except those who believe "conversion" is always done through exposition of ones religion's tenets or those who believe that force or enticement is just another way of explaining the doctrine of ones religion. India's laws guaranties all religion will have the right to practice their faith, but it will not enact or repeal laws so as to give undue advantage to any one religion, allowing them to make use of their abundant resources and the readiness to use whatever means to force or lure the needy to accepting their harmful doctrine.

"According to the SC, organised conversion, whether by force or fraud or by providing help or allurement to persons, taking undue advantage of their poverty and ignorance, is anti- secular.

Of course conversion by force is wrong. But what is "conversion by fraud"? And conversion by "providing help... to persons, taking undue advantage of their poverty" is wrong? So Christians should stop aiding the poor? This is a disgraceful and evil decision. These judges would have closed down Mother Theresa's ministry.

Mother Theresa's ministry was genuine charity and so it was allowed. Seems like you have confused between aiding and frauding. Get back to me when you are able to figure the difference.

The court had said respect for all religions was the essence of our secularism, whereas religious intolerance constituted the basis of planned conversion. Given this, conversion cannot be a secular activity."

I have no idea what this means.

It means conversion is always about intolerance. If you can tolerate the religious ethos of Hindus then there is no reason why you would want to covert them into Christianity's straight-jacket.


77 posted on 05/21/2006 6:32:03 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: Gengis Khan
It means conversion is always about intolerance. If you can tolerate the religious ethos of Hindus then there is no reason why you would want to covert them into Christianity's straight-jacket.

No, you're wrong. Conversion is about telling people about what/who you worship and convincing him/her about the truth of your ways. It does not mean that the person needs to turn away from Indian ethos and culture, but it does mean some strict injunctions -- like the person acknowledging that there is only one God. If a Hindu can't do that, but still wishes to worship Christ (and many DO), then he/she is free to do that.
123 posted on 05/21/2006 9:44:05 AM PDT by Cronos (Remember 9/11. Restore Hagia Sophia! Sola Scriptura leads to solo scriptura.)
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To: Gengis Khan
It means conversion is always about intolerance. If you can tolerate the religious ethos of Hindus then there is no reason why you would want to covert them into Christianity's straight-jacket.

If you had a good friend, and you thought that giving him a better understanding of the laws of karma would improve his position on the next cycle of rebirth, would you seek to improve his understanding of karma, or would you keep your mouth shut and allow him to proceed on a path that you think will lead him in a bad direction?

To a Christian, it's not a question of tolerance/intolerance. The Christian sincerely believes that a friend improves his prospects in life and after life, by becoming Christian

140 posted on 05/21/2006 10:03:25 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the arrogance to think they will be the planners)
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