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Everest Pioneer Climber Blasts Group Who Left Dying Man
ABC NEWS INTERNATIONAL ^ | May 24th 2006 | STEVE McMORRAN

Posted on 05/24/2006 3:16:47 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg

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To: David Allen
Hi David,

When I was sixteen, I was body surfing on Block Island in huge waves from a big storm off shore. I was with two girls I met the night before.

A mega undertow set up, and both girls swept past me doing about 40mph...they couldn't hear me telling them to float horizontal-like: upright in the water, they got the push seaward in the belly and legs.

Already having been in the water a long time, and really tired, I wondered what I should do. One of the two girls finally figured it out, and was making progress...the other started disappearing, waving her arms. I knew she was outta steam, and drowning.

I swam out about 75 yards and started pulling her in. Surfers were everywhere...a friend, about 60 ft away couldn't hear me screaming for help...he just caught the next wave after looking at us puzzled for a moment. No one got the picture.

I pulled her, and pulled her...all the while being slammed by huge, crushing waves....swallowing water....beaten up....out of steam. I let her go to save myself.

It was a decisive moment in my life. What to do? I went back and started pulling again.

Another dozen yards, and my body gave out. I sank, looking up at the surface, ready to die.

Then something happened...second wind....'NOT FREAKIN" HAPPENING!' Reserves of stubborn.

Swam up to the top, grabbed her again...she was limp...subconscious...and I started pulling.

Then I was out of my reserve. I was falling under the waves, the gal in my arm...going nowhere. Arms and legs like lead. Again I got ready to die. Looking up, the sun was beautiful through the water. My ears rang beautiful tones in fifth harmony. It wasn't so bad. Peaceful. I resigned myself. I felt happy.

My foot hit the bottom during a receding wave.

My eyes bugged out...I exploded, and started digging in with my feet as fast as I could...where'd that strength come from? I'm sure I hadn't breathed in a long long time. The next wave smashed us, and rocketed us to the beach.

She puked, I puked.....we lay there for about a half-hour recovering before either of us could talk. I'm pretty sure I saved her life. I've never been as close to death since.

I would not, could not step over that guy on the mountain. If I were to die pulling, I'd go happy.

How would my mind and life be if I'd not gone back for the drowning girl? Husk-like existence? A long time to regret and say I shoulda, I coulda? Guilt. Better to die.

God calls the shots: just because the situation is impossible, doesn't mean you've been abandoned, rolling dice with your own life, in what your conscience clearly tells you is the right action on behalf of a another. The voice is there. At sixteen, I was listening.

Offer your life to save another: if you lose, you win; if you win, you win.

Deny conscience, save yourself the risk: rot inside.

I feel sad for the 40. They're already dead. Their hollow rationalizations are their epitaphs. RIP.

41 posted on 05/24/2006 7:43:32 PM PDT by dasboot
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Those prescient parents of young Miss Rodham, oh!

And to the rail of this thread: Hooray for a real mountaineer, a gent and a nobleman by his actions!

42 posted on 05/24/2006 7:49:38 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Mad Dawgg
""Human life is far more important than just getting to the top of a mountain," Hillary was quoted as saying..."

Oh sure, Sir Edmund can say that now. He's already reached the top.

43 posted on 05/24/2006 7:51:31 PM PDT by Hatteras
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
"Someone should shame these people and let them know we don't count their " achievement ". "

Yeah, put an asterisk next to their names in the book!

44 posted on 05/24/2006 7:53:58 PM PDT by Hatteras
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To: Mr. Brightside
Says here the temp was -100o. C,F, it doesn't say. What's the likely hood of that being right?
45 posted on 05/24/2006 8:06:10 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: dasboot

I agree with you. If you give your life trying to save another, you PASS. You go to the head of the line. You're in like flint!

These guys passed up a chance to have the greatest adventure of their lives.

We're humans, and we will do superhuman things to save ordinary humans. When they're stranded, we don't ask "do they deserve this?" We go get them.

I suspect former military who are over 50 would say "don't leave him" to a man.


46 posted on 05/24/2006 8:07:23 PM PDT by David Allen (the presumption of innocence - what a concept!)
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To: dasboot

Praise God for your willingness to risk your life for another's. I wouldn't want to be any of those forty people.


47 posted on 05/24/2006 8:17:17 PM PDT by skr (We cannot play innocents abroad in a world that is not innocent.-- Ronald Reagan)
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To: David Allen

And I suspect the current Military would as well.


48 posted on 05/24/2006 8:46:12 PM PDT by Maury
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To: Maury

I agree, but I didn't want to speak for them. I just know in my generation, it's unthinkable.


49 posted on 05/24/2006 8:51:15 PM PDT by David Allen (the presumption of innocence - what a concept!)
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To: dasboot
Their hollow rationalizations are their epitaphs. RIP

I have the feeling your account is absolutely a true one. I concur with what you have said. The human race has many flaws. All of us are suject to selfish mistakes.

What separates humanity from the ugly, perverse dark side that plagues it, is- well, being human.

The cold pragmatic decisions mark these men (men?). I read in a novel, that was filmed, "Anatomy of a Murder". There was this quote on the grasping distrustful trailer park owner.

"Just another representative of the vast gentle breed that shall one day inherit the smoking cinder of the earth". (Paul Biegler).

I was saved from drowning in Lake Timsah,Egypt. Hence my homily, that is another story.

50 posted on 05/24/2006 9:11:53 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: dasboot
If she had been on the bottom and hopeless tied to a 500 lb anchor and the best you could do is go back to shore looking for help, THEN you'd have an apt analogy.
51 posted on 05/24/2006 9:25:26 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: Mad Dawgg
The last comfort for a dying human being is..... The compassion and care written on a human face.

Many of us will come to an end and will know it. For you- whoever you are. You are in the footsteps of the good Samaritan. As to the others.

Selfish, self absorbed rotters.

52 posted on 05/24/2006 9:53:16 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: David Allen
"I suspect former military who are over 50 would say "don't leave him" to a man."

I am neither "former military" or over 50 (however I cannot make that claim for much longer) but I know I could in no way pass this poor soul on the way UP and leave him behind. Now I might have to leave him behind after I exhauseted all efforts to if nothing else drag him down, but first you can be damn sure I would be looking to the other 40 for some help and make the attempt.

Who knows maybe the poor sought just needed a little boost to get to his feet and someone screaming in his ear and telling him to move or die.

But in no way am I going on to the top and leaving him/her behind, cuz see I know I got to live with myself after I get back down to the bottom.

53 posted on 05/24/2006 10:02:28 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: Mad Dawgg

I agree. You have to know what's important, and staying on schedule and getting to play King on the Mountain are not important.


54 posted on 05/24/2006 10:18:11 PM PDT by David Allen (the presumption of innocence - what a concept!)
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To: Peter Libra

If nothing else, sit with him while he goes.

This event was one step removed from putting grandma on an ice floe.


55 posted on 05/24/2006 10:21:19 PM PDT by David Allen (the presumption of innocence - what a concept!)
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To: spunkets
Nevermind. Looks like my first guess of -22o was good. The facts in this story suck.
56 posted on 05/24/2006 10:47:53 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: Mr. Brightside

Sorry. Blew the ping on #56.


57 posted on 05/24/2006 10:49:33 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: eddie willers
If she had been on the bottom and hopeless tied to a 500 lb anchor and the best you could do is go back to shore looking for help, THEN you'd have an apt analogy.

Ah! I dived down and unscrewed the shackle pin. [righty-tighty; lrfty-loosey...I know some engineering] Up she floated like a cork!

Mary Jo....she must be dead. Hopeless. Now...about ME.

How do you know anything is hopeless?

500 lbs divided by 40. That's.....ummmm....12.5 lbs each!

Mustard seed faith....positive attitude....compash....empathy....guts....I hope I still have em. I pray I'm not tested again. But I'm a hopeless Boy Scout...deep down.....despite my everyday facade of selfish curmudgeonliness.

58 posted on 05/24/2006 11:04:14 PM PDT by dasboot
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To: dasboot

Yeah, like tying a net of ropes to him and all 40 take an end and together drag him back down. Of course it means all 40 give up their quest for the top, but that isn't the Top that matters in the end.


59 posted on 05/24/2006 11:08:24 PM PDT by drlevy88
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To: drlevy88

" Hey buddy...since you're kinda outta breath, mind if I use yer phone to call my broker?"


60 posted on 05/24/2006 11:12:59 PM PDT by dasboot
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