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Stricter Seat Belt Law Goes Into Effect In Mississippi (Good Law or Just Big Brother)
WREG ^ | 5-26-06 | Melissa Moon

Posted on 05/26/2006 9:23:51 AM PDT by WKB

Southaven - Not wearing a seatbelt will soon be enough to get you pulled over by police or state troopers in Mississippi. Saturday the state's new primary offense seat belt law goes into effect.

Right now the Mississippi has a secondary offense seat belt law. That means officers need another reason, like speeding, to pull you over. It's only after you pulled over that officers are allowed to ticket you for not buckling up.

Law enforcement officers can also pull a driver over if they notice that his front seat passenger or anyone in the vehicle is not wearing a seat belt.

Law enforcement officers throughout the mid south plan to beef up their patrols over the long holiday weekend. Troopers in Mississippi plan to set up road blocks in several parts of the state to check for seat belt use.

Mississippi is the 23rd state where officers can pull over a driver for not wear a seat belt. Tennessee passed a primary seat belt law back in 2004.

The new law in Mississippi carries a maximum fine of 25 dollars per vehicle.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; govwatch; leo; nannystate
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To: Protagoras
Some "phoney's" could be real.

They don't all drive "Rascals"...or pull 02 tanks.

That being said...I surely furrow my brow at those who outwardly appear healthier than I.

101 posted on 05/27/2006 9:23:21 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Molon Labe)
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To: mc6809e

rember, all we want to do is get cigarette coms off the air?i rest my case.


102 posted on 05/27/2006 9:27:07 AM PDT by old gringo
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To: Wurlitzer
BS to the infinity power. This straw man argument doesn't fly. Treat the precious little girl then send the fricken bill. What is so hard about that?

This is what is already done. The hospital sends the bill, the usual irresponsible person who'd DUI in the first place has no assets and the state minimum insurance coverage - if you're lucky - and you and I eat the balance. Every time.

Per the NHTSA, 85% of collision related medical expenses are paid by someone else. Other policyholders, other taxpayers.

103 posted on 05/27/2006 9:44:36 AM PDT by CGTRWK
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To: Old Professer

Whatever. I know I feel safer when I'm buckled in, and everyone else is, too. I have one of those nifty seat belt cutter/window smasher tools, just in case.


104 posted on 05/27/2006 11:12:21 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

Another personal story concerning that:

A bowling buddy didn't show up one week which caused the team some concern, so the next week everybody was waiting to hear what had had kept him away.

Turns out he was T-boned in an intersection and ended up with his car on its top and he was suspended alone caught by his shoulder harness; a kind soul walked over to the car to ask if he could help and when our friend said yes, the guy cut his strap, slipped his wallet out of his pocket and high-tailed it down the street.

Let's face it, driving has so many risks we can't even name them all, let alone pass laws to try and eliminate them.


105 posted on 05/27/2006 12:13:42 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: TKDietz
It is my business if I wear a seat belt and no one else's. I have tons of insurance, and a considerable amount of assets. They say "click it or ticket." I say take your ticket and stick it. We don't even have helmet laws in my state and they harass people about seat belts? Some yahoo cop can pull me over on his two wheeled death trap motorcycle and write me a ticket for not wearing my seat belt? I'll wear my seat belt when I feel like I should be wearing it, and anyone who doesn't like that can kiss my rear end.

Great post. You summed it up perfectly for me.

106 posted on 05/27/2006 10:14:09 PM PDT by NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
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To: Lazamataz
Disagree !!!!

Since 11 Sep, our country and society has been in "witch hunt" mode. This is in all areas - schools, work, out in public. It has even gotten so bad that those who choose to disagree or dissent get vilified from those regardless which side of the aisle the vilifier's come from. The Bill fo Rights is more pertinent than ever !

It is time to go after terrorists but not at the expense of individual freedoms. It was only a few years ago that individual freedoms was considered a politically incorrect thought especially by the left.

The Bill of Rights is sooooo September Tenth.
107 posted on 05/27/2006 10:24:54 PM PDT by CORedneck
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To: Smittie
I would like to tell the proponents of the police state - using seatbelt enforcement as an excuse to pry into your private affairs and commit highway with a seatbelt fine. My phrase would be, Click It, Stick it up where the sun don't shine. I do wear a seatbelt and use a helmet when riding my motorcycle but it is none of the government's damn business !
108 posted on 05/27/2006 10:28:09 PM PDT by CORedneck
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To: eyedigress

Yep, that is the whole deal...an excuse to search for drugs and/or money...


109 posted on 05/27/2006 10:37:01 PM PDT by cajun-jack
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To: mysterio
I remembered when Indiana went to its seatbelt law back in 1987. If I remember right, Prosecutor Jeff Modisett was pushing real hard for the IN General Assembly to pass a primary seatbelt law. One time, I got an unjustified speeding ticket as an excuse for the cop to check seatbelt use. The Sheriff's deputy mentioned it was Modisett's special program for Marion County. It cost me $200 to get the speeding ticket dismissed - attorney cost. This was back in 1991. I remember when the original belt law went into effect, there was a so-called promise not to make it primary.

Same crap here in Colorado. The primary belt bill failed to pass by one vote here ! Since 1997, this primary enforcement bill has came up int he state house each year ! It was originally pushed by a Retired State Patrol Major. This retired Major got pissed when people disagreed with him when opposing this "annual bill". At one time, they did the same thing with the helmet for motorcyclist until the early 1990's. Us motorists, unlike motorcyclist, don't have a lobbying group. There is one group that can help if people know about them and choose to join. It is the National Motorists Association. The were the organization that got 65/55 mph speed limit repealed back in 1995/1996.

An interesting afterthough. The AAMVA's Driver License Agreement when signed by a given state will require points for seatbelt violation. The was in the original Real ID Act and is in the HR4437 - House Immigration Bill passed last December under the Scott Gardner Act.

They go from secondary offense to primary to zero tolerance in ever instance of this seat belt crap. It's called incrementalism. Here in Indiana, we are a couple years ahead of you. We have 8 million statist laws that basically say kids have to be tied down with duct tape backwards in the backseat in a booster cage until age 28.

The nanny safety statists are one of the biggest threats to freedom in our time.

110 posted on 05/27/2006 10:43:50 PM PDT by CORedneck
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To: mc6809e

I like this law. No amount of skill or alertness can prevent another vehicle from crashing into yours, in which case you're at much greater risk if not buckled up. Reality can bite. It can bite harder if you're in a stupid zone...


111 posted on 05/27/2006 11:04:31 PM PDT by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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To: Madame Dufarge
"Keep people safe" implies ownership.

I would be more inclined to say that it can imply that those people's judgment is inferior and they must be protected from themselves. That doesn't have to be the case.

Sometimes people take unreasonable risks because they don't understand the risk. If you are trying to keep them safe by simply informing them of the risk so they can make more informed choices, you aren't interfering with their freedom.

When you start misleading people, you're no longer helping them make informed decisions, you're trying to manipulate them.

I feel that informing people is good. Manipulating them is bad.

Restricting people through regulation or action is a different related issue. Let me just say that we have set the bar for when we allow and expect the government to step in way too low.

112 posted on 05/29/2006 11:11:58 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: TKDietz

"Did you really think we want those laws observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with." ('Atlas Shrugged' 1957)


113 posted on 05/30/2006 5:53:11 AM PDT by CSM (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.Protagoras)
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To: Arrowhead1952

"I never unbuckled a dead person at an accident."



Boy, is that ripe for Clintonist interpretations.


"I only ever saw 10 fatal accidents", "I never took ANY dead person OUT of an accident scene", "I've never been to a fatal accident", "I didn't do it, but my partner did" etc, etc, etc.


114 posted on 05/30/2006 8:27:53 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: WKB

"Click It or Ticket" is working here in Washington.

There will always be those people that just won't buckle up for any reason and those just to complacent to think that that little trip could be their last. Can't legislate away stupidity I always say. Case in point just recently three local teens ran off the road and hit a tree. The two buckled kids in the front seat survived the accident, but the unbuckled teenage girl in the back was thrown from the vehicle and killed.


115 posted on 05/30/2006 8:38:02 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: NavyCanDo

Any primary seatbelt law will be abused. As an example, I was driving along and had just answered my cellphone (which in my state is legal to operate while driving) when I passed a statetrooper in the median. He pulled me over and told me I was talking on my cellphone and not wearing my seatbelt. I always wear my seatbelt. I was sitting there with it on too. Deputy Fife just didn't like the fact that I ignored him as I drove by talking on my phone and he pulled me over for that reason. The primary seatbelt law gave him the right to pull me over give me a ticket for a seatbelt violation when it was in reality a ticket for talking on my cellphone, which is again, legal. So there you go, an officer using the law for his own pet peeves. Next they'll be after the fat people, and users of salt.


116 posted on 06/05/2006 3:49:03 PM PDT by Mr. Seatbelt
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