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Everest 2006: A message from the deathzone
MountEverest.net ^ | May 30, 2006 | Tina Sjogren

Posted on 05/30/2006 4:02:28 PM PDT by Raebie

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To: plain talk

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. I'm sure that in the vast majority of cases there's nothing that can be done. But I also wonder about those instances where something could have been, and why it wasn't.


21 posted on 05/30/2006 5:22:16 PM PDT by Raebie
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It was a good read until this:

This was the message Everest wanted to leave with us in 2006, ten years after Into thin air. When you check the timing between the death and miracle of David and Lincoln, it hits you that the MotherGoddess could have spoken no louder. It's not a cute message folks. It's a warning.

What the hell does that mean? Damn hippies!

22 posted on 05/30/2006 5:22:42 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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Although it's true no one showers up there and they have an obscene amount of facial hair, it's the translation for what the locals call the mountain.

;-)


23 posted on 05/30/2006 5:24:37 PM PDT by Raebie
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The Sherpas call Everest the "MotherGolddess?

News to me, thanks.


24 posted on 05/30/2006 5:28:27 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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Chomolungma - "Mother Goddess of the World"


25 posted on 05/30/2006 5:36:50 PM PDT by Raebie
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Chomolungma! I like the way that sounds. Now to figure out a way to use it in a conversation...


26 posted on 05/30/2006 5:38:34 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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Your mixed apples and elephants. I'm not debating whether those climbers should have stopped climbing and tried to save him. That's what I would have done. What I was commenting on what the author's statement. She said "If a climber is part of a "far less professional outfit" and "had no oxygen, and no proper gloves," he deserves to die, we decide."

No one said that. It was a stupid emotional comment for her to make. And when I see stupid comments I point them out. That's all. It was a lame article. Other than that it was OK I guess. :-)


27 posted on 05/30/2006 5:43:00 PM PDT by plain talk
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"There is no evidence anyone was ""stepped over" in a callous attempt to achieve ones' own ambitions." They reportedly went on because they didn't believe the person would survive."

Sounds like the same thing to me.

28 posted on 05/30/2006 5:55:06 PM PDT by joebuck
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it hits you that the MotherGoddess could have spoken no louder

Never heard of her but speaks volumes of where the author is truly coming from........

MotherGoddess will not be at the gate when the climbers ultimately arrive, God will and something tells me he will not have room for these self indulgent fools......

29 posted on 05/30/2006 6:07:34 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Don't make me have to call Jack Bauer.......)
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They reportedly went on because they didn't believe the person would survive

I once drove by a car wreck because I thought the driver was dead........let somebody else stop to check, I had to get home for dinner.

30 posted on 05/30/2006 6:10:50 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Don't make me have to call Jack Bauer.......)
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Chomolungma! I like the way that sounds.

That's the name the Tibetans use.

In Nepal, its called Sagarmatha and basically means the same thing.

31 posted on 05/30/2006 6:48:03 PM PDT by eddie willers
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Nope. The difference is motive.


32 posted on 05/30/2006 7:01:57 PM PDT by plain talk
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Since I didn't read of any doctors in the climbing party who gave the dying man an examination there on the peak, there is no way any of those climbers could have known whether he could be saved or not. It was just more convenient to tell themselves that he was a goner so as to justify ignoring him and not missing their chance to make the peak.


33 posted on 05/30/2006 7:13:26 PM PDT by joebuck
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Well the climbers certainly know more about the chances of survival on Everest than you do. And I doubt you can read their minds to determine their motives for continuing. It puzzles me how ignorant people who know nothing of mountain climbing treat this like passing someone lying on the street.

My original comments were directed at the author of the article who posited ""If a climber is part of a "far less professional outfit" and "had no oxygen, and no proper gloves," he deserves to die, we decide." Deserves to die? The author has apparently crawled inside the mind of those climbers and found that they passed him by not just out of blind ambition but that they actually scoffed at the wounded climber and believed he deserved to die. That statement is pure crap.


34 posted on 05/30/2006 7:48:52 PM PDT by plain talk
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