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Defending the Strangers in Our Midst: The Demonizing of Immigrants
Breakpoint with Chuck Colson ^ | 6/9/2006 | Chuck Colson

Posted on 06/09/2006 4:51:54 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback

Did you know that “95 percent of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens?” Or that “75 percent of people on the Most Wanted List in Los Angeles are illegal aliens”? What’s more, “Over [two-thirds] of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on [Medicaid] whose births were paid for by taxpayers.”

This is outrageous. Especially since none of it is true! Instead, it’s just one example of how, in some ways, we have gone beyond worrying about illegal immigration to demonizing the immigrants themselves.

This example came from a widely circulated e-mail that was posted on at least 130 conservative websites. It listed ten “facts about immigration” and gave as its source the Los Angeles Times.

Not only was the Los Angeles Times not the source of these “facts,” when the paper examined the alleged “facts,” none of them withstood scrutiny. Some of them distorted the data: For instance, approximately 62 percent of all births in Los Angeles County are to Hispanic women. But this number includes American citizens, legal aliens, Hispanics from countries other than Mexico, and has nothing to do with Medicaid.

The so-called “facts” about illegal alien criminality are even worse: They are deliberate misrepresentations or complete fabrications.

Unfortunately, this is only the tip of an often very ugly iceberg. The illegal immigration problem is often called an “invasion” that threatens the existence of the United States. Illegal aliens are depicted as part of an effort to “reconquer” the American Southwest. And it’s not only illegal immigrants: American citizens of Mexican ancestry are also regarded as part of this plot.

Now, there are a few fringe Latino groups that talk about “reconquista”—that is all they are, however: fringe. To judge all Latinos, including illegal aliens, by the words of these groups is as fair as judging all Christians by the actions of clinic bombers or Fred Phelps.

A concern for fairness isn’t the most important reason that Christians ought to oppose this demonization of “the strangers in our midst.” As theologian T. M. Moore recently wrote on BreakPoint Online, “God defends strangers. He has compassion for those who have left all and risked all to find new lives in a strange country.”

Moore reminds us that God expects His people’s “attitude toward the strangers and sojourners in their midst” to reflect His own concern.

Now, this does not mean that Christians ought not to be concerned about the massive lawbreaking, by both illegal immigrants and those who employ them. We must! The rule of law is a Christian contribution, coming out of the Reformation, and it requires respect for law, just as the Bible does. Nor does it mean that there’s one particular immigration proposal that Christians ought to be supporting.

What it does mean is that Christians must work to see that the immigration debate generates light instead of heat. We must insist that the illegal-immigration issue be addressed without treating millions of Americans, many of whom have died protecting our country, as a kind of fifth column.

That is the very least we can do if we are obedient to God’s command to welcome strangers. And that’s a fact I got from the highest possible Source.


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To: DieHard the Hunter

For comparison, how difficult would it be for a boatload of illegals to land in NZ, get jobs and apartments with no documentation?


41 posted on 06/09/2006 6:19:42 AM PDT by Sender ("Why, by God, I actually pity those poor sons-of-b*tches we're going up against. By God, I do".)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Thought provoking article. We all read this and see different things. I am a big supporter of seeking the truth and that is one of the messages I think he is trying to send.

Regarding the treatment of "strangers in the land", we are commanded to treat them fairly and subject to the same laws we subject our selves to.

To be honest this illegal alien thing is a hot button for me and most other conservatives and it is hard for me to think objectively about it sometimes. I can tell you in GREAT DETAIL what I don't want but I can't tell you what I want in immigration policy.


42 posted on 06/09/2006 6:29:59 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: Sender

> For comparison, how difficult would it be for a boatload of illegals to land in NZ, get jobs and apartments with no documentation?

It happens often. This past week, an Illegal was dumped at hospital with massive head injuries by four of his friends. Indonesian, it seems. Fruit picker, lo illegal wages. Seems he somehow got injured on the job...

We collect "overstayers" from all over the South Pacific: people who come to "visit" then forget about inconveniences like return air tickets and visas and the like. And we have a very long, deserted shoreline with plenty of places to land boats undetected.

The galling thing is they will, while their "case" is being heard, most likely qualify for every government Benefit going.

America has a particularly nasty challenge: two very long, undefended borders that are fair pourous over their entirety. Not funny at all, and good on ya for clamping down on it...

My objection is calling these parasites "Immigrants". They are NOT. They are Homeland Invaders, unwanted guests. They have not "Immigrated" by definition, because they have not gone thru the Immigration Process. Like I had to do: waiting my turn and doing things by the book.

They have jumped the queue, broken the rules, broken the law, gotten in ahead of everybody else who has respectfully gotten into line, followed the process, and waited their turn.

They are NOT Immigrants. They are Parasites. They are Illegal Aliens. Not Immigrants.

There is no such thing as an Illegal Immigrant.


43 posted on 06/09/2006 6:31:01 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (I am the Chieftain of my Clan. I bow to nobody. Get out of my way.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Last May 1st Mexican illegal aliens & their accessories . . excuse me! "undocumented workers/migrants" and friends `belly-ached', demanded citizenship and threatened to go back to Mexico.
So now they're "on the road to citizenship" and will be made Americans, with all the emoluments and privileges of US citizenship (even if they still prefer displaying their native flag, and never mind all the other applicants following our laws) and that's just the way it is because our chief law enforcement officer says we can't enforce our laws.
Won't we then need more Mexicans to do the jobs these new Americans won't do?
So more Mexicans sneak across the (still unsecured) border and they become "undocumented workers/migrants". On May 1st they start belly-aching & demanding, so we make these "undocumented workers/migrants" US citizens and provide them with all the emoluments . . .
Won't we then need . . .


44 posted on 06/09/2006 6:46:01 AM PDT by tumblindice
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To: Sender
Dittos for a lot of "contractors" building homes today.

What you are saying about nobody wanting to kill chickens is likely true, but it still is wrong to hire illegals. The builing of homes is another matter. Illegals have put many American craftsmen out of work, and that is not only illegal but morally wrong.
45 posted on 06/09/2006 7:01:49 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: GarySpFc

I agree, it's wrong to hire illegals. No one is punishing the employers or the enablers. Cheap labor who work hard and cannot complain or call in sick.


46 posted on 06/09/2006 7:25:15 AM PDT by Sender ("Why, by God, I actually pity those poor sons-of-b*tches we're going up against. By God, I do".)
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To: Fruitbat
As I see it, Christians (and everyone else) ought to be "supporting" whatever is in the best interests of the preservation of the same nation that enables them to worship freely and have religious freedom.

Very well said!

47 posted on 06/09/2006 8:18:31 AM PDT by Nea Wood (Is cheap, illegal labor worth one life?)
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To: Mr. Silverback
We can certainly demonize a lot of these guys.
48 posted on 06/09/2006 9:35:09 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Dane
If not motivated by fear and racism, then what motivates some people hating people picking food or building shelter.

If not motivated by hatred for America and American citizens, then what motivates you to aid and abet the illegal aliens responsible for the deaths of over 40,000 Americans and the sexual abuse of almost 3,000 American children since President Bush took office?

49 posted on 06/09/2006 9:55:33 AM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Spiff
If not motivated by hatred for America and American citizens, then what motivates you to aid and abet the illegal aliens responsible for the deaths of over 40,000 Americans and the sexual abuse of almost 3,000 American children since President Bush took office?

Correction:

If not motivated by hatred for America and American citizens, then what motivates you to aid and abet the illegal aliens responsible for the deaths of over 40,000 Americans and the sexual abuse of almost 3,00015,000 American children since President Bush took office?

3,000 is the number of American children sexually abused by illegal aliens EVERY YEAR.

50 posted on 06/09/2006 9:57:51 AM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Mr. Silverback
ping

The Illegal-Alien Crime Wave

51 posted on 06/09/2006 10:15:31 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: Dane
Why dont you support an essentially open border with mexico? One that keeps out criminals and terrorists of course but lets all others in at will. What are you afraid of?
52 posted on 06/09/2006 1:34:44 PM PDT by mthom
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To: Rockingham
"Well, Chuck, suppose we shut the border, fire all the illegals, run them back to where they came from, and imprison the non-compliant -- but not say a harsh or false word against them. Will that do by your lights?"

I truly wish you could ask that question of Chuck Colson personally. I suspect it would be OK by him. He didn't come out in favor of lawbreaking or against law enforcement. He came out against "false witness against thy neighbor" --- which is still a violation of the Big Ten, last time I checked.

53 posted on 06/09/2006 2:14:40 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I hope you are correct as to Colson's views. His objection though was not false witness but supposed "demonizing" of illegals, an objection that could be made to apply to entirely true accusations -- like the extraordinarily large percentage of illegals in federal and state prisons.
54 posted on 06/09/2006 2:59:52 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: DuncanWaring; Spiff
Ah, good post. At least for once somebody on this board knows how to bring evidence to support their point. Here's the problem: Colson is making the case that a major motivation behind the anger in the base is hatred of illegals, and that they are being frequently demonized. That just isn't true, either on FR or elsewhere. Virtually everyone who has a problem with illegal immigration feels that way because of a love of the rule of law or a disdain for the consequences of letting it go on this long.

So, Colson can cherry pick that email, and you can cherry pick Spiff's post, and Spiff can make that list and never get a grip on the fact that you could make a similar list about Blacks, lesbians, Scottish guys or dentists, but none of it means that the majority of us are engaging in demonization.

55 posted on 06/09/2006 4:26:13 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Try Jesus--If you don't like Him, satan will always take you back.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Chuck, you ignorant slut. For the last F%%KING time, NOBODY objects to LEGAL immigrants. We object to ILLEGAL immigrants. Nice try at word judo, but we're not buying it. We're not going to let you get away with it.
56 posted on 06/09/2006 4:29:56 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (Why isn't there an "NRA" for the rest of my rights?)
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To: Rockingham
You wrote: "[Colson's] objection though was not false witness but supposed "demonizing" of illegals, an objection that could be made to apply to entirely true accusations -- like the extraordinarily large percentage of illegals in federal and state prisons."

I understand your point, although I think Colson's objecting to an unwanted generalizing. For instance, an "extraordinarily large percentage" of the inmates in federal and state prisons are males. I think you'd object if somebody "demonized" males in general.

Not that it hasn't already been done --- by some feminists who view testosterone as a toxic substance and the y-chromosome as a genetic defect.

57 posted on 06/09/2006 4:37:44 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (My husband has a very nice y-chromosome.)
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To: Spiff; DuncanWaring
If not motivated by hatred for America and American citizens, then what motivates you to aid and abet the illegal aliens responsible for the deaths of over 40,000 Americans and the sexual abuse of almost 3,000 American children since President Bush took office?

Is this your motto, Spiff?

When in trouble
When in doubt
Run in circles
Scream and shout

58 posted on 06/09/2006 4:44:01 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Try Jesus--If you don't like Him, satan will always take you back.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Back to Colson's point - welcoming strangers

Should I go ahead and get the scissors and snip that from my Holy Bible?

This whole deal would not be a problem if we were a Chrisian nation. Maybe, some day.....

59 posted on 06/09/2006 5:05:39 PM PDT by don-o
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Yet why is the accusation of "demonization" deployed against opponents of illegal immigration? And why use that term anyway, which the Left is fond of and which, in most applications, is a shabby rhetorical tactic to denigrate an opponent as picking on some put-upon group?

Even at that, to call the false claims circulating on the Internet "demonization" is absurd. Most high school sports game cheers and slogans have more in the way of "demonization" than a recitation of false statistics.

Colson could have simply debunked the false information that was circulating and let it go at that. Instead, he seems to have weighed in on the side of illegal aliens, even the large criminal contingent.

Has Colson come to identify too much with his prison flock, including the illegals? Mexico is a wretched pit of a country with a predatory and corrupt ruling elite. Most illegals had miserable lives there, and I am sure many of the criminals have appealing stories to offer a sympathetic listener.

But what about the victims of the crimes of illegal aliens? The destructive effects of massive illegal immigration on the US? The erosion of rule of law? Of America's identity? The potential for terrorist attacks through insecure borders or civil war or a breakaway border region? The vast flow of illegal drugs?

Oh no, Colson implies, let us put those considerations aside for we must not, as Christians, speak too harshly of illegal aliens. In the end, I suspect that Colson favors the illegals.
60 posted on 06/09/2006 7:13:24 PM PDT by Rockingham
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