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The discreet rise of muslim conversions...
Le Figaro ^ | April 13 2006 | Le Figaro

Posted on 06/11/2006 11:16:58 AM PDT by Alama

Translation: he conversions of Muslims in France to Christianity is a subterranean river only now emerging onto the surface. The Catholic Church says little about the subject except that several hundred people raised as Muslims are baptised every year. An estimated 10,000 ex-Muslims have now converted to Christianity in France, about two thirds of them to Catholicism. The numbers have been rising every year according to the Catholic Association Notre Dame de Kabylie. The reason for the relative silence is due to very heavy family and community pressure.

To lend mutual support to these ex-Muslims a Protestant prayer group called 'Oasis' was set up a few years ago. "Requests to take part in these prayer groups are on the increase " states Saïd Oujibou, one of the few Muslim converts to Christianity who does not hesitate to speak out in public. Coming from a strict Islamic background he himself exerted much pressure on a sister who converted to Christianity. "One of our brothers made her rip out the pages of the Bible one by one", he says. With his wife Fatima, who is also a former Muslim, this 'itinerant pastor' travels across France coordinating the Oasis network.

Malika, now a practising Christian, sighs : "All contact with my family has been broken off." She went on to say "I haven't rejected all aspects of Moroccan culture" she says "but only the Gospels could answer the questions that I was asking myself."...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bible; christ; christian; christianchurch; christianity; church; conversion; eurabia; france; god; goodnews; gospel; holyspirit; jesus; jesuschrist; muslims
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To: A CA Guy
So we have the scholars and Pope in the church that help us go into murky the murky waters of self interpretation which is a form of humanism without the Authority of the Church.

CORRECTION: So we have the scholars and Pope in the Church that helps us AVOID going into the murky waters of self interpretation which is a form of humanism and WITHOUT the Authority of the Church.

61 posted on 06/13/2006 12:07:52 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

"Islam [does not] start with the physical abuse of their women and Christianity isn't into that."

This statement tells me that you're a lunatic, and aren't worthy of further discourse. If this is the sum total of Roman Catholicism, as if you speak, eh? Well, then, the sum total of y'all are wacked. You haven't obtained a single clue to any of what I've said whatsoever.

"We condemn sin, but love the sinner. We Don't approve sin, we don't enable the sin in Church or parades, but we do pray for the sinner's aalvation."

What kind of nonsense is that? I've a fly who keeps landing on the monitor this evening. I want to wack that piece of crap with a segment of rubber-band.

My understanding of Catholicism pertains to dispute respecting "authority" bestowed/inherited by the leadership of the church. I've already asked you 'bout that.

Do I have to ask you again? Frankly,not only do you not understand the qwrxinon, you have no clue a xwqeioxon was posed. I'll do you one better: I'll actually ask for sombody who knows the Catholic cathechism "like the back of their hand" to be your adversary. You can watch, and I hope learn, because I'm going to fillet that person alive (do you understand what I'm saying: my personal belief is that there's no difference between you and the Islamists). Acually it may be easier if I just showed you John Paul II video "worshipping" with with all kinds of GodDamnded heathen, e.g. Hindu. Islamist, Bhudda, Central-Afrikaan, what else do you want? What does it matter, you wouldn't believe a pope herself smacking you personally on the nose...

The rest of your aspersions are lunacy (I pray for your soul).


62 posted on 06/13/2006 12:33:30 AM PDT by raygun
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To: raygun
"Islam [does not] start with the physical abuse of their women"

Where are the nations where Islam is in control where women AREN'T abused? It's part of the fruits of Islam as I've seen in it and where women are treated like dirt you have no civilization IMO.

63 posted on 06/13/2006 12:42:01 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

I'm absolutely baffled what you point may be: I've asked qwexions and you respond with gibberish.


64 posted on 06/13/2006 12:57:49 AM PDT by raygun
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To: raygun
Your the one who brought up and defended Islamist in several posts by comparing it to Christianity it seems.
I find Muslims abuse their women and any culture/religion that does that are not civilized and are a curse to the world.

The fruits of Islam has been abuse (especially of the wome), poverty and a culture stuck culturally in the distant past.

Islamic folks are diminished by Islam.

If you think Islam as so fantastic, then where I ask you are all the Islamic controlled nations where women are NOT abused to the level of human rights offenses?
65 posted on 06/13/2006 1:04:05 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Alama
About a hundred years ago, the popular saying was 'Civilize 'em with a Krag!"

Still makes sense to me...
66 posted on 06/13/2006 1:11:19 AM PDT by Bender2 (Gad! The inmates have control... And I'm trying to quit smoking!)
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To: A CA Guy
You want to make sense out of BS, here's some material to work with:


67 posted on 06/13/2006 1:49:16 AM PDT by raygun
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To: raygun

Thank you for your wonderful explanation!


68 posted on 06/13/2006 6:11:35 AM PDT by TigerSilly (What if the hokey-pokey is what it really is all about?)
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To: A CA Guy

I would have to point out that all of your posts state "I think". We don't depend on "I think", but on the Word of God.


69 posted on 06/13/2006 6:13:23 AM PDT by TigerSilly (What if the hokey-pokey is what it really is all about?)
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To: TigerSilly

No doubt, and I'm certain something else would've worked otherwise.


70 posted on 06/14/2006 10:34:38 PM PDT by raygun
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To: Alama
An estimated 10,000 ex-Muslims have now converted to Christianity in France, about two thirds of them to Catholicism.

Invade their countries, check.

Kill their leaders, check.

Convert them to Christianity. Check?

71 posted on 06/15/2006 5:43:08 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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