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Teacher Salaries: More Attention Needed to Specifics ( The Millionaire Next Door)
EducationNews.org ^ | June 16, 2006 | David W. Kirkpatrick

Posted on 06/17/2006 5:15:15 AM PDT by wintertime

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To: maine-iac7
I'd laugh if that story weren't so infuriating. Sounds like somebody found the keys to the slush fund drawer.
I'm still confused as to WTH their "statement" was supposed to be that it was important enough to shun students' most important accomplishment in life thus far?
241 posted on 06/17/2006 11:48:32 AM PDT by Sisku Hanne (Send "Cut-n-Run" Murtha packing. Support Diana Irey for US Congress!)
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To: moose2004

70 thousand a year would not afford a shack in southern California.


242 posted on 06/17/2006 11:53:18 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: moose2004

Look at the salaries of places like KS, OK, NE. It is certainly not 70 grand here, I will tell you that much.


243 posted on 06/17/2006 11:53:58 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: rwfromkansas

Teacher strikes are also illegal in Texas.


244 posted on 06/17/2006 11:55:09 AM PDT by Clara Lou (A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality. --I. Kristol)
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To: Kay Ludlow

At my kids school this year, when teachers quit they couldn't find teachers to replace them.


245 posted on 06/17/2006 11:55:52 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Kay Ludlow

Where is this? Sounds like the fictional school in 'Ed' where all I ever saw 'Miss Vessy' do is water plants, go out to lunch, and put books away.

Two aides/class? I had to cry and scream to get one parttime aide with 4 special ed kids along with several SEP kids and 16 reg. ed. kids.


246 posted on 06/17/2006 11:56:07 AM PDT by WHESS
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To: bwteim

Tom McClintock for one, and also another Assemblymen cannot recall at the moment.
But 50% is the known for quite sometime, heard it also on radio. Interesting, the disparity don't you think.


247 posted on 06/17/2006 11:56:55 AM PDT by Burlem
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To: Plutarch

I don't know what school you went to bub, but most of my teachers were never gone ONE DAY the entire year in high school.


248 posted on 06/17/2006 11:57:10 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Have you heard of No Child Left Behind? Obviously not. Teachers will lose their jobs if students do not improve every year, including those students that don't give a damn.


249 posted on 06/17/2006 12:01:24 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: JLGALT

She is a bad teacher.

Don't attack the entire profession because of bad apples like her.


250 posted on 06/17/2006 12:02:17 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: raybbr
The idea that all teachers are leeches and are to be scorned is absurd.

That is absurd, there certainly are plenty of excellent, dedicated teachers. My experience though, with the teachers my 2 children had through 9 years of public school, and the friends and neighbors I've known who are teachers, is that those are few - maybe 10-15% of teachers. My old neighbor told us bluntly she chose teaching (elementary) because she wanted a job with summers off, and so when she had children she'd be off when they were. She taught at the elementary school down the street from me, where the teachers left before the buses were gone (to avoid the slow traffic) and arrived 15 minutes before school. She didn't grade papers at home, she did them during her free periods or had her aide do them. I have a friend who would have been an outstanding, dedicated teacher, but when she was offered a job in our district teaching high school biology (she had degrees in both biology and elementary ed) she said no, she wanted to teach elementary. They've used her as a substitute teacher for over 20 years, but wouldn't ever give her an elementary job because she refused their offer. That's how life is, and I understand it, but hundreds of children would have been better off with her as an elementary teacher than they were with the drug-head my son had for 4th grade...

251 posted on 06/17/2006 12:04:47 PM PDT by Kay Ludlow (Free market, but cautious about what I support with my dollars)
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To: 9999lakes

We're sending our daughters to private school this year. It has nothing to do with the teachers. I actually liked their teachers, and I'm good friends with one of them.

I would love to have vouchers. One of my daughters is special needs (brain damaged proved by an MRI). This year, her reading level did not go up like it should and she is now reading about 6 months below grade level. The district will only provide a reading program when she drops 2 years below grade level, even though she has a certifiable disability.

A voucher program would really help special needs parents. They could actually use them to go to a school that is better suited to their kids disability.

Now, my husband and I have to come up with the money to send my daughter to private school, pay for a reading program, and pay for private speech therapy. It will cost around 20K. We have the money this year, but we don't know about next year.


252 posted on 06/17/2006 12:04:53 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Kay Ludlow

Group projects don't reduce workload. Planning them so all students work and actually learn is an art.


253 posted on 06/17/2006 12:05:09 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: Kay Ludlow
Is there a shortage somewhere? Here, when they had to hire a couple dozen teachers a few years ago )because of changes in the State Retirement plan that gave some an incentive to get out) 3,000 people applied for those 30 positions. Sounds like a glut to me.

On reading the working conditions in your #235, I can understand why. ;-)

It depends on the field and the location. On the secondary level, I think social studies and English teachers are relatively easy to find, science, math, and foreign language teachers are more difficult, as are special education teachers.

254 posted on 06/17/2006 12:05:12 PM PDT by Amelia (Education exists to overcome ignorance, not validate it.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

I am not a member of a union. I am a member of a Christian Educator's Assocation. We get liability insurance etc. through membership, the same stuff of value you would get in a union.


255 posted on 06/17/2006 12:08:47 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: WHESS
Two aides/class? I had to cry and scream to get one parttime aide with 4 special ed kids along with several SEP kids and 16 reg. ed. kids.

I had an aide for one period a day part of one semester. It depends on the aide of course, but this one wanted to talk to the students during lessons and basically disrupted class more than she helped.

256 posted on 06/17/2006 12:10:13 PM PDT by Amelia (Education exists to overcome ignorance, not validate it.)
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To: maine-iac7

Nonsense. Most every teacher who came from my conservative college is conservative. Most of them have jobs.


257 posted on 06/17/2006 12:13:21 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: Sisku Hanne
I was a public school teacher. Now I'm a state government employee.

Public school teacher isn't a state government employee? Maybe it's just the pensions that are through the state. Or maybe it's just a Pennsylvania thing...

258 posted on 06/17/2006 12:13:39 PM PDT by Kay Ludlow (Free market, but cautious about what I support with my dollars)
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To: Kay Ludlow
My old neighbor told us bluntly she chose teaching (elementary) because she wanted a job with summers off, and so when she had children she'd be off when they were.
What, exactly, is wrong with this? Don't we want mothers to be home with their children as much as possible? I would think that there was something wrong with her if she didn't want to be with her children. It sounds to me as though she's planning her future with her future children in mind. Sheesh.
She didn't grade papers at home, she did them during her free periods or had her aide do them.
Again, what's wrong with this? If the schools are set up so that she has free periods [I'm jealous], why shouldn't she use them for grading papers? It's obviously part of her job. What would you have her do during her free periods?
They've used her as a substitute teacher for over 20 years, but wouldn't ever give her an elementary job because she refused their offer.
That story doesn't pass the smell test. There are some critical details missing.
259 posted on 06/17/2006 12:15:07 PM PDT by Clara Lou (A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality. --I. Kristol)
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To: luckystarmom

I agree with you 100%--vouchers would be a huge benefit to parents such as yourselves with special needs children. Resource teachers are stretched to the max because these days, if a child is not performing, then it MUST be a learning disability (couldn't possibly be just maturity or lack of effort!). I have been at this for a long time and I have never seen so many kids who have been labled with LDs. As a result, students with real serious needs do not get the attention they require/deserve from PSchools. It's a shame.


260 posted on 06/17/2006 12:17:57 PM PDT by WHESS
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