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Southern San Andreas fault waiting to explode: report
Yahoo News & Reuters ^ | June 21, 2006 | Jeremy Lovell

Posted on 06/21/2006 10:33:10 AM PDT by 300magnum

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To: oldleft

Oh wow! So I'm closer to it now (29 Palms) than I will be in about 10 days. What a relief. :o) Thanks for the info! I'll never forget my first tremor. LOL I saw the ornaments on my Christmas tree shake and by the time I could get really worked up (see FREAKED OUT), it was over. :^D


61 posted on 06/21/2006 10:52:22 AM PDT by misty4jc
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To: KarlInOhio

Wonder if I should call the guy back that tried to sell me oceanfront property in Sacramento?


62 posted on 06/21/2006 10:52:33 AM PDT by Fighting Irish (Ever find yourself posting messages just to show off your taglines?)
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To: RightWhale
How long would it take to restore flow? Would a front-end loader and a bulldozer get things fixed up in an hour?

You're kidding, right?

I know nothing about those but the ones I do know about (East Bay MUD, San Francisco area) are 8-9 feet in diameter and above ground in many areas. I assume these are bigger.

Having all the personnel and equipment and supplies on the site if the break, I see a minimum of a week... assuming the site at the break has "drained".

63 posted on 06/21/2006 10:52:36 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: Arthalion
A big quake would be very, very bad for them, but that's the price of living in California

I live in Mass. Why do I get the feeling that I will be paying the price for living in California?

;)

64 posted on 06/21/2006 10:52:42 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Without a monkey, "You are nothing, absolutely zero. Absolutely nothing.")
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To: 300magnum

Ahem. Obviously the author has not heard of the recent ruling by the Los Angeles City Council to remove any references to religion in geographic names in the Southland. The San Andreas Fault was renamed Bush Fault many months ago.


65 posted on 06/21/2006 10:52:53 AM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: stumpy
Yes, I wouldn't want to live in Palmdale or Victorville if the San Andreas lets go. That wouldn't be fun.
66 posted on 06/21/2006 10:53:03 AM PDT by oldleft
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To: 300magnum

Yikes bump


67 posted on 06/21/2006 10:53:07 AM PDT by GOPJ (Once you see the MSM manipulate opinion, all their efforts seem manipulative-Reformedliberal)
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To: 300magnum

Have you heard they're renaming it?

"Bush's Fault"!


68 posted on 06/21/2006 10:53:24 AM PDT by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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69 posted on 06/21/2006 10:54:04 AM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: oldleft
Palm Springs would be obliterated, and Riverside and San Bernadino would be hit hard.

Which is why am prepared for a Katrina style panic. Emergency plan, lots of water, dry/canned food, MRE's, thermal blankets, flahlights, handcranked radios, first aid kits, guns, ammo etc.

Could use a few more guns though. Of course you can only buy one a month out here.

70 posted on 06/21/2006 10:54:13 AM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: 300magnum

George Bush hates level soil!


71 posted on 06/21/2006 10:55:00 AM PDT by jw777
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http://www.rctc.org/about/pdf/agendas/Archived/09%20Sep%2005/9H.CB.MCP%20Status%20Report%20Sep%20A.pdf

Issues at Lake Mathews and Lake Perris Dams

During the engineering and technical study work, major issues were identified with the Mid County Parkway in relation to the Lake Mathews Dam owned by Metropolitan Water District (MWD) and the Lake Perris Dam owned by the State Department of Water Resources (DWR). As the process moves forward, both agencies - MWD and DWR - expressed significant issues with having the Mid County Parkway near the two dams. MWD sent RCTC a letter stating that the Parkway must not touch the dam or the natural buttress of the dam. Subsequently, MWD has written RCTC objecting to any facility adjacent to the dam and stated that they do not want the facility within 1000 feet of the dam.

DWR had been expressing concern with the MCP’s alignment near the toe of their dam due to conflicts with operational facilities, pipelines and reserve land. After months of trying to elicit a formal response from DWR, they informed RCTC that a seismic study of Lake Perris Dam was underway. Prior to and following the public release of the draft results of this seismic study, DWR met with RCTC staff and stated that they oppose any alignments between the Lake Perris dam and Ramona Expressway. Subsequently, DWR notified the public that an emergency draw down of the Lake Perris dam of 25 feet was required immediately, due to earthquake liquefaction issues below the dam. DWR is to begin a feasibility study soon to determine needed infrastructure improvements, but has stated that they do not expect to know exactly the type of repair they will perform on the dam for several years. Any repair is likely to occur in the area between the present toe of the dam and Ramona Expressway. DWR has sent a letter to RCTC stating that its facility must not be within their right-of-way to allow these safety improvements to occur. Given the safety concerns and prohibitions stated by MWD and DWR, both alignments in front of the dams at Lake Mathews and Lake Perris are fatally flawed.

The VA team considered these engineering issues, as well as concerns raised by the public, and several new alignments were identified as possible options to the existing alternatives. Three alignments in particular rose to the top of this analysis. These new alignments are the Far South alignment, the Perris Drain alignment and the San Jacinto alignment paralleling the Colorado River aqueduct.

72 posted on 06/21/2006 10:55:15 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Fitzcarraldo

30,000 acres of water isn't much. We have a flood control project here that if it fails at maximum impoundment will flood 300,000 acres and wash 50,000 people and their SUVs down the Tanana River.


73 posted on 06/21/2006 10:55:45 AM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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To: oldleft

That map brings back some memories. Both my parents grew up in Coalinga.

We were there shortly after the beuatiful brick downtown area of Coalinga was shook to the ground. While we were there we went through 2 big aftershocks, both happened at night...both of them I slept through.


74 posted on 06/21/2006 10:55:53 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (There are no trophies for winning wars. Only consequences for losing them.)
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To: Arthalion

Hmmm? This sound very much like the attitude I heard in NOLA through the years ("NOLA is like a soup bowl, we live 12 ft under the waterline.") things of that nature. Look how prepared they were and also look how they came out of the Katrina disaster.


75 posted on 06/21/2006 10:56:11 AM PDT by 7thOF7th (Righteousness is our cause and justice will prevail!)
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To: stumpy
First thing I thought of, too.

Have you heard? A hangar at Plant 42 is currently hosting a movie production. They're filming Pirates of the Carribbean 3.

76 posted on 06/21/2006 10:56:50 AM PDT by lainie
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Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

77 posted on 06/21/2006 10:56:59 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: oldleft
Palm Springs would be obliterated, and Riverside and San Bernadino would be hit hard.

Fine-tuning a bit, Indio and (Gulp...!)La Quinta ** are very close - in fact "north" Indio is ON the fault, but Palm Springs is several miles southwest.

Riverside is probably 30 or 40 miles, but San Bernardino also straddles the San Andreas.

**I'm at about 330 feet elevation, and looking down over the base of the Coachella Valley and up into the base of the Little San Bernardino Mountains about a dozen miles across the valley, I can see the line of palms and vegetation....from the fissures on the fault.

78 posted on 06/21/2006 10:58:20 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (Meep Meep)
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To: LexBaird

Actually, real estate prices in New Orleans have increased ALOT since Katrina. Bizarre.


79 posted on 06/21/2006 10:58:26 AM PDT by BagCamAddict (Prayers for the victims - human and animal - of Katrina and Rita)
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To: Smogger
People laugh when I tell them I have 60 gallons of water stored. They laugh even harder when I tell them that's just for drinking and cooking. When you explain to them what would happen in a major quake they stop laughing.

There's also one of the few year round streams in SoCal close to me, and I have filters. I could hold out for a couple months if necessary.

As far as ammo goes, try pepper spray balls. If someone came after my stash a couple pops in the face with those little thing will drive anyone off. Of course, I have a couple more potent weapons as well.
80 posted on 06/21/2006 10:58:44 AM PDT by oldleft
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