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To: faq
You're taking one fact (the US sided with Iraq during the Iran/Iraq war)
I'm not sure "sided with" is accurate. According to another poster we also "sided with" Iran. The objective wasn't for either to "win". Just to keep them tied up with each other.

Look, you can bask in whatever glory you think this is, that is OK.
It is a great thing that we found the stuff, I would hate for it to be used on our guys.
I just don't think it is the major "smoking gun" that everyone else does.

My post was not to emphasize so much that we helped them, but more toward that it shouldn't have been such a surprise that these were there. We knew he had them, along with everyone else in the world.
To me, the "smoking gun" would be if and when we find something that they developed in secret - that they were hiding from us and the world.
That is all.
Believe it or not, we sometimes as a nation do things that appears to backfire on us. Happens all the time. You can't really say, even in hind sight, that it was the wrong thing to do because we don't know what sort of mess it would have been had we not done (action X - you pick it).
If you want to poke US way up on a pedestal of righteousness, that's ok I guess - but the farther up you are, the farther you fall.
We do what we think is best for US at the time. Usually we are not too concerned what happens to others unless it makes US look too bad to the world. That is just the way it works - always has, always will.
For example, if the world wouldn't have thrown a fit, we could have nuked Afghanistan and Iraq into oblivion. It would have save us lots of good men and women. But, it also would have cost us dearly in the eyes of the world.
From time to time we get it really right, from time to time it ends up not so good.

Believe as you will, doesn't bother me at all.

Cordially,
GE
473 posted on 06/22/2006 7:41:01 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: GrandEagle
Pleaee listthe sources of information you have which indicate that the United States trained Iraquis in the manufacture and or use of improvised explosives, and the manufacture of WMD.

I would love to see them. As far as I can discover, you are perpetrating an Urban Myth.

478 posted on 06/22/2006 7:53:29 AM PDT by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: GrandEagle
For example, if the world wouldn't have thrown a fit, we could have nuked Afghanistan and Iraq into oblivion. It would have save us lots of good men and women. But, it also would have cost us dearly in the eyes of the world.

Um, no. We didn't do this for one simple reason: it would have been wrong. We didn't go to war against these countries, we went to war against the ruling regimes who oppressed their own people at the point of a gun--in addition to attacking us. Indiscriminate killing of these oppressed populations would have been morally and legally wrong. We got the guys we wanted and sought to spare innocents.

483 posted on 06/22/2006 8:33:04 AM PDT by pgyanke (Christ embraces sinners; liberals embrace the sin.)
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