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Has the Gray Lady turned the president yellow?
News Day ^ | 6/27/06

Posted on 06/27/2006 7:11:42 AM PDT by bnelson44

Should The New York Times get the death penalty or merely a jail sentence? If the Times is guilty of treason in wartime, then obviously the "Gray Lady" should be wearing prison stripes - at best.

But although the Times is open about its willingness - make that eagerness - to publish secrets in wartime, it doesn't appear that the Justice Department plans on doing anything in response. And so it's fair to ask: Does the Bush administration have a serious plan for winning the international war on terror, or is it drifting down the path of least political resistance - and thus to defeat?

Friday, the Times printed details about federal surveillance of the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication, based in Belgium. The U.S. government's goal has been to uncover terror-financing networks, which are no small phenomena: Two years ago, the Council on Foreign Relations issued a report showing that Saudi Arabia, alone, gives $12 billion a year to Islamic "charities."

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KEYWORDS: bush; nyt; treason
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1 posted on 06/27/2006 7:11:47 AM PDT by bnelson44
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To: bnelson44

I think Pinkerton is trying to get the President in a fighting mood.


2 posted on 06/27/2006 7:12:47 AM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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So why hasn't the Bush administration done anything? One answer, of course, is that the wheels of justice grind slow - and unseen, at least for a while. But a better answer comes from Fox News' Bill O'Reilly, who argues that the Bush administration has been "intimidated" by the media and by allied critics in Congress. That would explain the Boston Globe story on Monday, detailing how the Bushies, who once asserted that the phone taps were perfectly legal just the way they were, are now willing to accept closer Congressional supervision. So score a media-political victory for the Times.

And so the Gray Lady has every reason to think it will win this latest battle, too. The fate of the war on terror, of course, is another story - but the Times is too busy crushing George W. Bush to worry much about that.


3 posted on 06/27/2006 7:13:26 AM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: bnelson44

So this is now the President's fault???

Oh good grief

Hey Pinkerton .. ask yourself why Congress never "officially" declared war?


4 posted on 06/27/2006 7:15:29 AM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePb6H-j51xE&search=Democrats)
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To: bnelson44

I think if anybody jepordizes the safety or security of our troops it should be labeled as treason. Newspapers, just savage backstabbing leeches that will do anything for a story, then do anything to it to make it the big headline. Fleeting, shameful glory, that's all.


5 posted on 06/27/2006 7:16:40 AM PDT by freebird5850
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If the Times is guilty of treason in wartime...

Congress has not declared war, so treason is out.

6 posted on 06/27/2006 7:17:09 AM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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You can have an enemy of the State without declaring war. So treason is in. Read:

Leaks and the Law
The case for prosecuting the New York Times.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/012/385jqmfk.asp


7 posted on 06/27/2006 7:18:25 AM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: bnelson44
The DOJ has more important issues ... like fighting patients
dying of cancer using medical marijuana against their nausea and loss of weight
rather than going after overt, seditious, salient, haughty, repeat traitors. How times have changed.




President Washington: "I want Bill Keller.
I'll hang that traitor if it's the last thing I do on God's earth.
"


18 U.S.C. §798. Disclosure of Classified Information.
(a) Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States or for the benefit of any foreign government to the detriment of the United States any classified information—
(1) concerning the nature, preparation, or use of any code, cipher, or cryptographic system of the United States or any foreign government; or
(2) concerning the design, construction, use, maintenance, or repair of any device, apparatus, or appliance used or prepared or planned for use by the United States or any foreign government for cryptographic or communication intelligence purposes; or
(3) concerning the communication intelligence activities of the United States or any foreign government; or
(4) obtained by the processes of communication intelligence from the communications of any foreign government, knowing the same to have been obtained by such processes—Shall be fined not more than $10,000 or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both. (b) As used in this subsection (a) of this section—
The term “classified information” means information which, at the time of a violation of this section, is, for reasons of national security, specifically designated by a United States Government Agency for limited or restricted dissemination or distribution; .........
The term “communication intelligence” means all procedures and methods used in the interception of communications and the obtaining of information from such communications by other than the intended recipients;
The term “unauthorized person” means any person who, or agency which, is not authorized to receive information of the categories set forth in subsection (a) of this section, by the President, or by the head of a department or agency of the United States Government which is expressly designated by the President to engage in communication intelligence activities for the United States.


"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
George Santayana



8 posted on 06/27/2006 7:18:26 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: bnelson44
Relavent Laws:

18 USC 793

18 USC 794

9 posted on 06/27/2006 7:24:50 AM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: bnelson44

Great reference!


10 posted on 06/27/2006 7:26:03 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: bnelson44
The NYT bathhouse boys and their fellow propagandists have been winning the war against US power for decades.

This President is but a bump in the road for them, the first the first to seriously challenge and disobey them since RR.

But the leftwing MSM are winning, and will always win. The President knows this, and is doing what little he can.

Just ask Israel who wins the battle between the MSM and those trying to fight evil, and it ain't Israel.

It is up to the citizens to destroy the propagandists for our enemies, it is way past time for them to die.
11 posted on 06/27/2006 7:28:46 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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This was mentioned yesterday on another thread: It seems as though the Times is looking for a fight, looking for a lawsuit, looking for a way to save their sorry buts from extinction. Having a little fight with the administration in court would definitely sell some papers.
12 posted on 06/27/2006 7:33:30 AM PDT by Mathews (Ambition, absent a moral compass, is naked destruction.)
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To: Mathews

buts = butts


13 posted on 06/27/2006 7:35:02 AM PDT by Mathews (Ambition, absent a moral compass, is naked destruction.)
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To: bnelson44

The only problem is, if the "government" goes after the NYT, the libs will scream Nazi tactics, if the Administration goes on attack mode, as they have been, then it doesn't put them in the position of trying to hush the press, it makes Americans realize that the NYT is a traitorous bunch of bottom feeders.


14 posted on 06/27/2006 7:35:47 AM PDT by JENINMO
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Bryon York is on FNC saying it would be very difficult to prosecution the NYT


15 posted on 06/27/2006 7:37:28 AM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePb6H-j51xE&search=Democrats)
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To: Diogenesis
One for your collection...



16 posted on 06/27/2006 7:38:05 AM PDT by HOTTIEBOY (I'm your huckleberry)
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To: Mo1

If the Times can't be prosecuted it brings into question the entire regime of information classification. What's the point of making something "secret" if it can, without penalty to anyone, end up on the front pages of "Pravda"? Why do we have Pollard in jail again?


17 posted on 06/27/2006 7:47:00 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Famous last words: "what does Ibtz mean?")
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To: bnelson44

That headline had me wondering why the President would be afraid of Nantucket. It must be almost summer vacation time. :)


18 posted on 06/27/2006 7:48:36 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: Mo1

But it wouldn't be difficult to get the press under OATH to give them their SOURCES and then PUNISH the LEAKERS!!


19 posted on 06/27/2006 7:49:11 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: thoughtomator
If the Times can't be prosecuted it brings into question the entire regime of information classification. What's the point of making something "secret" if it can, without penalty to anyone, end up on the front pages of "Pravda"? Why do we have Pollard in jail again?

Pollard was a spy

The NYT is hiding behind the 1st Amendment

However ... I think the leaker can be prosecuted

20 posted on 06/27/2006 7:58:22 AM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePb6H-j51xE&search=Democrats)
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