[TalonDJ]

The point at which the baby can survive outside the womb

SO you define humanity by the progress of medical technology at saving premature births? OR do you think we should leave them all to nature and see if the live or die before deciding if the are human yet? Or did you mean at the point where they can survive without someone or something performing the function of the mother? Then we can abort up to a few years old.

I am sorry but adjusting the point were you are allowed to kill a baby by a couple months does not relieve them of 'whacko baby killer' status.

Pro-abort types are willing to draw that line, and willing to move it around based on whim or new research. Pro-lifers say no-one should be allowed to draw the line and say 'you are human and you are not'. The point is not WHERE you draw the line. The issue is that you are WILLING TO DRAW IT and then kill a developing human based on it.

[BagCamAddict]

Again, I wish people could read what I wrote, not what you wish I had written. I did not write anything about the definition of Humanity or Human. So I won't debate anything about your entire first paragraph, because you are putting words in my mouth that I did not say.

And since the rest of your post was based on your first paragraph, I have no response to you. If you care to comment on what I actually DID say, then I will respond to that.