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China should be held responsible for North Koreas actions. After all, North Korea and China have a very cozy diplomatic relationship. China supplies North Korea with energy, food and quite possibly with munitions.
1 posted on 07/08/2006 2:57:36 PM PDT by garbageseeker
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Punish them by giving Japan the Nuke!


2 posted on 07/08/2006 2:59:12 PM PDT by brain bleeds red
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After all, North Korea and China have a very cozy diplomatic relationship. China supplies North Korea with energy, food and quite possibly with munitions.

So does Japan and South Korea. I don't think China has the leverage that so many think it has. North Korea is like Vietnam to China.
6 posted on 07/08/2006 3:06:44 PM PDT by kinetics
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"Had China not intervened in the Korean War in the 1950s, sending its own forces in to fight U.S. forces, North Korea would not exist today --- and all of the Korean peninsula would be free and democratic..."

While true, this statement is absolutely irrelevant to today's situation. The China of Hu Jintao is *not* the China of Mao Zedong, nor does the current Chinese government bear responsibility for the aid Mao offered to North Korea. People should not be held liable for the sins of their fathers or their political predecessors.

The lag of Chinese support for countermeasures to Kim Jong Il's blatant misbehavior is unfortunate, and I agree that pressure should be exerted to at least make sure the current Chinese government does not interfere with U. S. and Western efforts to restrain Kim's dictatorship. However, we should be careful to not demonize the Chinese while doing so; China is steadily becoming a free-market country, and its government is socialist in name only. It is still repressive in some areas (especially individual political expression), but this has improved and will improve with time. Most importantly, its government is reasonable to deal with -- unlike that of Kim Jong Il.

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7 posted on 07/08/2006 3:07:25 PM PDT by G. Stolyarov II (http://rationalargumentator.com)
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One thing that China always responds to is humiliation. Someone really needs to press the story about NK keeping the trains that China sends in loaded with food. It seems that NK is just sending back the crews of the trains and keeping the trains AND cargo. A little mocking of China's inability to keep little old North Korea in line could go a long way.


13 posted on 07/08/2006 3:19:33 PM PDT by Uriah_lost (http://www.wingercomics.com/d/20051205.html)
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China supplies North Korea with energy, food and quite possibly with munitions.

All supplied by MFN and Bill Clinton's treason.

15 posted on 07/08/2006 3:21:22 PM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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Absolutely correctamundo! Hold China responsible. China's indirectly ruled the country anyway.


21 posted on 07/08/2006 3:27:22 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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give Japan a fully stocked Nuclear Submarine..


22 posted on 07/08/2006 3:28:33 PM PDT by Cinnamon
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The US will do....wait for it.... absolutely nothing.

For clean access to our markets, the US isn't getting a very good deal.

35 posted on 07/08/2006 4:24:59 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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Forget it. We don't even have the stones to do the right things here at home.


41 posted on 07/08/2006 5:51:45 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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"China should be held responsible for North Korea's actions. After all, North Korea and China have a very cozy diplomatic relationship. China supplies North Korea with energy, food and quite possibly with munitions."

Don't forget our friends the Russians. They were the ones who sold N. Korea the technology for their Scud missiles. Also, Russia sells N. Korea the energy for the N.Korean military, as well as most of the tanks their army uses. Also, Russia and China are in the same regional bloc, the Shanghai Cooperative Organization.

48 posted on 07/08/2006 8:55:20 PM PDT by Thunder90
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The Russians flew the air cover for the Chinese in the Korean War.


50 posted on 07/08/2006 8:56:59 PM PDT by Thunder90
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Forget the UN, if we really want to punish China, take away their trading status, stop allowing Wal-Mart to purchase from them, and take away the Olympics.

I can dream, right?


53 posted on 07/08/2006 9:33:13 PM PDT by Brytani (Someone stole my tagline - reward for its return!!!)
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I don't understand it buy I've heard that people who do say China could snap us like a twig over the trade imbalance.

Our best bet is for Japan to go nuclear and continue improving on SDI.

61 posted on 07/09/2006 2:53:39 AM PDT by rvoitier (Conservatives are from Mars, Liberals are from Uranus.)
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