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US Accused of Siding With 'Criminals and Jihadists' in Kosovo
CNSNews ^ | July 21, 2006 | Nathan Burchfiel

Posted on 07/21/2006 1:33:10 PM PDT by sergey1973

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To: stylin19a

I don't believe that clinton went to the Congress for a Resolution supporting his bombing of the Serbs. I remember McCain wanting to give the clintons the resolution supporting their actions, but the clintons decided to be unilateral and bypass Congress and the UN. The unilateralism started with the clintonoids.


81 posted on 07/24/2006 5:50:50 AM PDT by AdvisorB (For a terrorist bodycount in hamistan, let the smoke clear then count the ears and divide by 2.)
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To: Smartass

Now now. You're being tough on Hoplite.

He's priceless, really he is.

He introduced islamist eavesdroppers as evidence, who were trained by Iranian VEVAK, as solid proof of Bosnian Serb naughtiness at Srebrenica.

Now to you and me, VEVAK trained operatives suggest "suspicion" to say the least. But not to our very own Hoplite. Every word they said MUST be the TRUTH. let's not mention they wrote it down on kids maths books. They also forgot to put their name OR date too. But I'm quibbling.

And he's not even started, for he's also a big proponent of Erdemvoic.

A most interesting witness was he.

Insane, a liar under oath, an amnesiac, his superiors spent the Bosnian civil war bragging of their French Intel links, etc.

Yes, to you and me, that raises "QUESTIONS", but not to Hoplite, for Erdemovic is a witness from heaven and any doubts are not even contemplated.

And to finish it all, Hoplite is most taken with Doctor Ball's bedside manner.

To those not in the know, the good doc found some pieces of paper fluttering in the wind in a disused Albanian bunker/border post, he stuffed the papers into his pocket and then analysed them. To everyone in the world they are crap. To the esteemed doc and Hoplite they represent proof of evil Serb intentions.

Now, don't laugh, but when Doctor Ball testified against Milosevic a good few years later, he STILL didn't know what the Albanian guards had written as headings for the information they'd collected about displaced ethnic Albanians.

One of the headings was labelled "TOOL".

Yes.

TOOL.

Milosevic had to explain that as ole lazy bones doc couldn't be arsed to translate the Albanian headings. Yes, several years later and the good doc was so incompetent he'd yet to translate a single word.

A primary school kid would laugh it out of class, but not our very own Hoplite.

So.

GO STEADY ON HIM. HE'S PART OF THE FURNITURE.


82 posted on 07/24/2006 6:24:49 AM PDT by infidel_and_proud
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To: JamesP81

What surprises me is that a decade latter we still support independance for Kosovo, and protect the KLA.


83 posted on 07/24/2006 6:47:19 AM PDT by tvguru
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To: sergey1973
Milosevic, as bad as he was, was lesser evil than Jihadists as far as the US interests are concerned.

I would tend to support your assertion here, despite Milosevic being a communist...

The leftist internationale had a hard time deciding between their communist political sympathies and their cultural Marxism. They erred on the side of the most destructive, as they always do...

84 posted on 07/24/2006 7:08:57 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: tgambill
IMO, Kosovo belongs to Serbia, and always will, that should be the only plan on the table.   The UN, NATO or Albanians do not have the authority to partition a sovereign nation. For what it's worth, dividing up an existing country because of internal issues goes against the UN Charter. Going on the premise of a country's internal strife, every neighborhood could become a separate country. There is no valid justification for an independent Kosovo.   The problem is, the only loud noise for autonomy is coming out of the region is from the Islamofacists.   The Serbians are going to have to become more politically vocal.

 

85 posted on 07/24/2006 12:11:44 PM PDT by Smartass ("In God We Trust" - "An informed and knowledgeably citizen is the best defense against tyranny")
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To: infidel_and_proud
If a person did their homework, the questions on the thread weren't difficult to understand or answer.   "US Accused of Siding With 'Criminals and Jihadists' in Kosovo."   Given the history of, information pertaining to, and facts, IMO, YES the U.S. is siding with criminals and Jihadists in Kosovo.   My rational is, the U.S. can't have wars against terrorism going on in Afghanistan and Iraq, and God know where else, then hand Kosovo, the heartland of the Balkans over to Islamofacists, that have torched over 150 Christian Churches and historic monasteries.   From the get go, it was the baseless Bill Clinton and Madeleine Not-So-Bright bomb Serbia into submission show.   OK, the bombing ended years a go, but not the ethnic cleansing, which was supposedly the reasoning for beating Serbia up from 15 thousand feet, .   So YES, a vote from the United States to make Kosovo independent, is pure hypocracy in motion.

Other then to appease Islam, there is no reason for NATO to be there, and moreover the U.S. meddle either.   Matter of fact, the U.S. owes Serbia a profound apology and monies for damages rendered.   Further, stay out of Serbia's internal affairs.

 

86 posted on 07/24/2006 1:05:56 PM PDT by Smartass ("In God We Trust" - "An informed and knowledgeably citizen is the best defense against tyranny")
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To: Hoplite; GarySpFc
I was shocked at how emphatic my buddies were that we supported the wrong side in Kosovo.

Wow. That must've been uncomfortable for you.

It's hard to tell if you are trying to be funny, Dhimmi, or juar being obtuse. Our soldiers know we bombed the wrong guys; 9-11 was just the period at the end of the sentence.

I hope you earn your new kneepads, by the by.

87 posted on 07/24/2006 6:56:58 PM PDT by FormerLib ("...the past ten years in Kosovo will be replayed here in what some call Aztlan.")
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To: Smartass

"IMO, Kosovo belongs to Serbia, and always will, that should be the only plan on the table."

****I would love to argue, can't. Why? Because you are right. I am doing research this week for a journalist who will be putting out a piece of work answering the questions, Why is the U.S. involved? How did we get there? What are the goals? Why the Mafia can't be touched? et al......This goes back to 1948, CIA in Albania, then due to circumstances, communism influence (not to go in detail here....), there was a break of influence you might say, and finally in the late 80's CIA took their opportunity.....and a chain of events took place that "started" the Balkans wars.....notice I wrote "Started"....

I reported in most every security meeting, Peacekeeping forces and "conflict resolution" seminars for five f#&*g. years that "As far as I know, NO ONE has changed the 1244". Many would disagree at first, but someone would always back up common sense and agree..then, as always the discussion would fall short of anything more to say. This happened every time.....Notice the latest news...Asharri, and the UN "IMPOSING" independence? What happened to the K-Albanians going to vote for independence? I'll tell you what it's something called the "Resolution 1244". I also told them that Russia and or China would vote against radifying this UN Resolution, due to the close relationship between U.S. Administrators and Albanian Political leaders (mostly KLA and Mafia BTW). There is also several specific reasons why Ceku was "pardoned" for being a war criminal go figure. Deep Deep pockets pulled that one from INTERPOL...ya think? Another war coming......Macedonia and Southern Presevo is in the sights...with the final destination being the individual Republics of Russia.....


88 posted on 07/24/2006 11:55:18 PM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: tgambill; Czar; nicmarlo; texastoo; Kenny Bunk; EternalVigilance; janetgreen; hedgetrimmer; ...
I ran into a good informative web site, for anyone that is interested should bookmark.   The read is short, but thorough enough to grasp the evil intentions of Islam, and how they tacitly operate.



Excerpt...Source:  Dhimmitude: History

Dhimmitude: History: Jihad

History of Jihad

The relations of Muslims and non-Muslims were set in a context of a war: jihad. Its justification by Qur'anic verses and hadiths provides to jihad, the war against non-Muslims, a theological base. Jihad establishes a single pattern for relations between Muslims and non-Muslims and is central to their relationship. Jihad can be examined at three levels: its doctrine, its institutions, and its historical manifestations.

The ideology of jihad was conceived after Muhammad death. It encompasses a doctrine aiming at the Islamization of the world, supported by military institutions and tactics of war, all being considered as binding the Islamic community (umma). Jihad represents the Islamic worldview of war and peace, it constitutes a specialized domain of Islamic theology and law.

Jihad doctrine divides the peoples of the world into two irreconcilable groups: the dar al-Islam (the land of Islam) and the dar al-harb, (land of war) the non-Muslim world, destined to come under Islamic jurisdiction either by the peaceful conversion of its inhabitants, or by armed conflict. Jihad is the permanent state of war of the dar al-Islam against infidels until they submit to Islamic domination. Peace is accepted only temporarily according to circumstances. The institution of jihad regulates the conduct of war according to religious rules.


89 posted on 07/25/2006 2:04:43 PM PDT by Smartass ("In God We Trust" - "An informed and knowledgeably citizen is the best defense against tyranny")
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To: Smartass

Excellent, SA! Makes it very clear what we are up against!


90 posted on 07/25/2006 2:13:21 PM PDT by Bokababe (www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe
Thanks Bokababe...
That's the problem, many are being led to believe
that it's just radical Islam as being the root
cause of world wide trouble. Of which, is a
totally false perception.

 

91 posted on 07/25/2006 3:18:42 PM PDT by Smartass ("In God We Trust" - "An informed and knowledgeably citizen is the best defense against tyranny")
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To: kronos77

Well, now, things have changed slightly since the wars in Yugoslavia...we have had 9/11, Afghanistan and Iraq. We now have Lebanon too. I propose that we adopt an old policy...any country that pisses us off by challenging our interests get bombed for 78 days....hospitals, apartments, bridges, water treatment plants, oil refineries, factories, hey---breadlines...bomb the shit out of them, then occupy them....that should work---sounds like a plan.


92 posted on 07/25/2006 6:09:23 PM PDT by Celebratelife008
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To: Smartass

excellent.....thanks.


93 posted on 07/26/2006 12:00:49 AM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: Smartass

"The NATO mission in Kosovo was a Clinton distraction to
confound his Monica impeachment problems."

**** No, our involvement from Bosnia to Kosovo, and more to come, (Macedonia; Southern Presevo; etc..had little or nothing to do with Monica. It was planned from a long time ago coming to fruition in the late 80's for a much bigger purpose. Clinton was just a conduit or to carry out the plans. If monica never even seen a cigar :)) it would have occurred anyway due to an agenda on a much larger scale. It's an incredible agenda......

Ramsey Clark??????? agreed....:))

Seriously, soon an article will come out to tie this together and give the bigger picture. Kosovo was part of the scheme not an accident. It's not a good situation as it's not over yet.....Another war is on the way.


94 posted on 07/26/2006 12:10:45 AM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: tgambill
Yes another war is on the way. Things got so complicated on Kosovo, that they cant be resolved by USA or NATO. Albanian dreaming of stealing Kosovo grew bigger than US and NATO desires. Even if US nad EU recognise "indipendant" Kosovo, that is not the end of problem, it is just a begining. In that situation, kosovo will fall in some vacuum, limbo like Northern Cypruss. Defacto indipendant, but not seriously indipendant. Serbia can bitter Kosovo life simpley sabotaging invesments, blakmailing large internacional corporations like Cypruss does that they cant make buissiness with both kosovo and Serbia, and economical situoation on kosovo will go from worst to unbarable, setting Albanian nationalism and Islamism free. In that situation, they will act against NATO same they acted against Serbia. Actually what is going on ist that wast isn‚t trying to claim Kosovo indipendant, he is trying to make Serbia to make Kosovo Indipendant. And last night Vladeta Jankovic, PM Kostunaca‚advisor, said that "Serbia have enough of capacity of evry democratic means to stop 15% of its territory to be stollen". Asked what if Albanians get wild, he said that guerilla warfare is wery likely on Kosovo against Serbs and NATO. Asked againd will Serbian army stay behind administrative line when Serbs attacked, he sait wery diplomaticaly, that "..we must use whole democratic capacity of souveren nation to stop 15% of our territory to be stolen"...
95 posted on 07/26/2006 3:18:04 AM PDT by kronos77 (www.savekosovo.org say NO to Al-Qaeda new sanctuary)
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To: tgambill; Bokababe
Oh I didn't disbelieve for one moment that there isn't an agenda to carve up the Balkans to establish a large Islamic foothold in Southern Europe. Because, wherever on this earth Islam sets a foot, they believe that land is theirs till the end of time, Including here in the United States. This isn't hate speech talking, but hard worldly facts. They do it slowly, and inclemently with any means at their disposal, including in Kosovo, NATO sanctioned ethnic cleansing. IMO, granting an independent Kosovo would bring to the region, nightmares not ever seen before.

I just believe at the time, due to Clinton's being in dire straits, he was searching to create distractions to change the news, Bosnia, Kosovo along with bombing an Aspirin factory and tents in the desert, served that purpose. The factory and tents are nothing. Bosnia and Kosovo are a different story with long term consequences.

 

96 posted on 07/26/2006 12:46:50 PM PDT by Smartass ("In God We Trust" - "An informed and knowledgeably citizen is the best defense against tyranny")
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