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Cooking oil cars turn the table on high fuel prices
AFP ^ | Virginie Montet

Posted on 07/23/2006 6:27:54 AM PDT by CubaninMiami

WASHINGTON (AFP) - A growing number of Americans are setting up mini-refineries in their homes to produce biodiesel, a fuel made from waste cooking oil which is cleaner and cheaper than the petrol sold in gas stations

The sky-high price of crude oil is scaring everyone.

Biodiesel has Hollywood backers like actress Julia Roberts and Morgan Freeman, is sung about by country star Willie Nelson but also meets the political correctness of the American right wing which has made the campaign against imported oil a mantra... ...

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: biodiesel; energy
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To: RipSawyer
Thanks for the story RipSawyer.

I've known people like that lady.

If both people feel that they got a good deal at the end of the transaction then it was a good one.

Depending on the location and size, straight up pine trees go for $250 - $1,200 around here. I've got about an $900 +/- one 10 feet from the house I'm taking estimates on.
41 posted on 07/23/2006 7:44:01 AM PDT by PeteB570 (Weapons are not toys to play with, they are tools to be used.)
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To: B Knotts
But let there be no doubt, the government doesn't like the potential for tax evasion there...

That's why they will eventually outlaw the production of "home fuels" or require a "permit" in which they decide how high the permit costs will be, the regulations, the distribution, etc,etc,etc...

It'll go on and on until they have at least 50% piece of the pie. Count on it.

42 posted on 07/23/2006 7:48:11 AM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: sneakers

bump


43 posted on 07/23/2006 7:49:21 AM PDT by sneakers (Freedom is the answer to the human condition)
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To: PeteB570
Biodiesel is only cheap because few people use, need or collect it right now.

Bingo. The law of supply and demand is so simple and inescapable that you could teach a parrot to be an economist ("Aaawwwkk! Supply and demand. Supply and demand."). Unfortunately, the Green Weenies, and even some of our exalted FRiends are seemingly incapable of grasping that concept.

44 posted on 07/23/2006 7:51:30 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Why isn't there an "NRA" for the rest of my rights?)
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To: PeteB570

Where are you? If pines can be sold for that much in NC, I'm a millionaire!


45 posted on 07/23/2006 8:01:09 AM PDT by weezel
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To: CubaninMiami

Julia Roberts, Morgan Freeman, Willie Nelson...

Notable, but not persuasive.

But when Morgan Fairchild gets on the bandwagon - I'm in like Flint!


46 posted on 07/23/2006 8:03:16 AM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Xenalyte
Two friends of mine (BM and H, I'm talking about my Plantersville bud and her hubby) are using leftover cooking oil from neighborhood restaurants to make biodiesel. It's all he's put in his truck for three months.

I'm all for as many alternatives as we can find for foreign oil. I'm surprised Congress hasn't been more proactive about finding alternatives, because IMHO it's a national security issue.

That said, how much oil do the neighborhood restaurants generate, how much does your bud's hubby drive, and is there enough oil there to supply biodiesel to several other families?

I'm just not sure there's enough used cooking oil out there to make this a viable source of energy for more than a few people...and I live in the South, home of deep-fried everything!

47 posted on 07/23/2006 8:03:31 AM PDT by Amelia (If we hire them, they will come...)
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To: Amelia; Xenalyte
how much oil do the neighborhood restaurants generate, how much does your bud's hubby drive, and is there enough oil there to supply biodiesel to several other families?

I'd have to ask them those questions, which I will when I talk to them this afternoon. Self-ping for reference!
48 posted on 07/23/2006 8:08:44 AM PDT by Xenalyte (Anything is possible when you don't understand how anything happens.)
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To: weezel
That's for residential pine tree removal.

If you have 4 or 5 tall skinny ones you could squeak by with paying $100 or so a tree. The bigger the tree the more it costs to remove. Based on the company used of course.
49 posted on 07/23/2006 8:09:27 AM PDT by PeteB570 (Weapons are not toys to play with, they are tools to be used.)
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To: Drew68

Exactly

Why people here automatically dismiss ideas just because someone they don't agree with supports it, has never made sense to me.


50 posted on 07/23/2006 8:11:55 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (In a world where Carpenters come back from the dead, ALL things are possible.)
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To: PeteB570

Depending on the location and size,
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Location, location, location, a tree that will bring you a good price in the midst of a stand of trees just like it will cost you a thousand dollars to have it removed if it is between your house and a fence and has to be brought down one small piece at a time. The one I cut was next to a fence and had to be pulled over and dropped in an open area, the fence was damaged somewhat and I had to repair it. I certainly would not have paid anything for that tree. I probably should have charged a hundred dollars and she would have been happy. I spent many hours in the hot sun cleaning up the residue.


51 posted on 07/23/2006 8:14:51 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Does anybody still believe this is a free country?)
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To: CubaninMiami
Cooking oil cars turn the table on high fuel prices

I hope that no one is buying a diesel in the hope that this condition will persist. The real world doesn't work that way.

This woman, as most of them are --- is an idiot.
As soon as the demand rises sufficiently, the cost of this "used" oil will rise from zero to, or close to, the market price of fuel.

That's the blessing, and the curse of freedom; the market economy; the innovative political and social system that, for better or for worse, created the greatest nation on earth.

The greatest nation of history.

Manipulate and restrict human resoursefulness and initiative, the creative part of us that separates us from animals, and you destroy that vitality.

I notice that none of these geniuses are rushing off to other countries...

52 posted on 07/23/2006 8:18:33 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: LurkingSince'98

I assume Biodiesel is used in diesel and not gasoline engines. Correct?


53 posted on 07/23/2006 8:18:58 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: CubaninMiami
Al this sounds great as long as you value your free time at $0. Once you start factoring labor, equipment, disposal of byproducts, it doesn't make economic sense.
54 posted on 07/23/2006 8:22:49 AM PDT by fso301
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To: CubaninMiami
Biodiesel... is sung about by country star Willie Nelson...

What the????

This plus that other one re: BB Mountain? Isn't this guy too old, too famous to be prostituting himself like this? Or does he still owe money to the IRA?

55 posted on 07/23/2006 8:26:34 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: Drew68
I find it disheartening that so many here dismiss out of hand alternative fuel sources as "enviro-wacko Hollywood liberalism." So what if Julia Roberts, Morgan Freeman and Willie Nelson support the idea? We've got to do something to alleviate our dependence on Middle Eastern oil and domestic drilling is just a temporary fix.

I find it perfectly logical since this is a temporaty anomaly and can't last.
No matter how "temporary" additional real fuel oil resources are, this pollyana alternative is a flash in the pan (pun intended).
Does anyone with a brain in their head think that users of new cooking oil will continue to give it away, after use, when the demand reaches a tipping point?
To say nothing of the legal extortionists taxing the **** out of it...

I got a few bridges I want to sell...

56 posted on 07/23/2006 8:32:50 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: CubaninMiami
"Biodiesel has Hollywood backers like actress Julia Roberts and Morgan Freeman,"

I'll bet they're using cooking oil to fuel the chartered jets when they fly into Aspen for those conferences where the stars lecture the proletariat about not using air conditioning, and then get awarded "higher consciousness" points in Katy Couric's "Guide to the Stars--The People Who Really Matter."

57 posted on 07/23/2006 8:35:26 AM PDT by cookcounty (CHENEY / ROVE 2008!!!)
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To: docbnj

A biodiesel processor that uses but does not sell commercailyy owes no tax. If it is sold then all use taxes and tarriffs apply but there is a 50 cent reabte pergallon to the processor.


58 posted on 07/23/2006 8:39:04 AM PDT by reluctantwarrior (Strength and Honor, just call me Buzzkill for short......)
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To: CubaninMiami
Biodiesel... is sung about by country star Willie Nelson...

What the????

This plus that other one re: BB Mountain? Isn't this guy too old, too famous to be prostituting himself like this? Or does he still owe money to the IRA?

59 posted on 07/23/2006 8:41:12 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: Publius6961
Does anyone with a brain in their head think that users of new cooking oil will continue to give it away, after use, when the demand reaches a tipping point?

They will start charging as soon as one guy with an F-350 drives up and asks for cooking oil and gets told they already give it away to the guy down the road. The guy in the 350 thinks about it and says, 'I'll pay you 5 cents a gallon.'

60 posted on 07/23/2006 8:45:22 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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