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Child Killed By Falling Mirror At Wal-Mart
The Indy Channel ^ | 7-23-2006

Posted on 07/24/2006 6:12:21 AM PDT by Samwise

INDIANAPOLIS -- A 3-year-old boy was fatally injured when a floor-mounted mirror fell on him at an Indianapolis Wal-Mart.

Police said Christopher Antonio was apparently playing near the 5-foot-tall mirror in the children's section of the store Saturday evening when it fell at the store in the 3200 block of 86th Street.

The boy was with his 5-year-old sister and his mother. The mother told police she was about 5 feet away from her son when she heard a loud crash.

Police said it took two people to pull the mirror off the boy.


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KEYWORDS: child; itsallfunngamesuntil; killed; mirror; ningnpaso; peligro; storesarentplaygrnds; walmart
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To: Dianna; DJ MacWoW
Does that mean that you might have looked at a store item or two INSTEAD of your child?

I'm confused. Was the cart in front of her while she traveled the aisle and she stopped and scooped things off the shelves while constantly eyeballing her kids, or did she stop and move the cart between her and the shelf thus putting her child in danger of falling objects?

581 posted on 07/24/2006 4:48:12 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: JRochelle

Nice, yet another holier than thou attitude on the thread from someone who has as little information about the incident as anyone else.

Why don't we all just tsk tsk about the tragic death of the child and await further information? A poster earlier (sorry I don't have the reference) speculated that it might be sabotage, and although it sounds tinfoil-ish, it might have been.

Others posted that the child could have been climbing on the darn thing. If this mirror was so precarious unless it was just installed, you'd think it would have come crashing down before now. Just what happened? We don't know.

Your opinion is just as offensive as theirs, at this point in the story.

It's too bad that a little three year old boy is dead. Isn't that enough???


582 posted on 07/24/2006 4:48:46 PM PDT by GatorGirl
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To: Darkchylde
Since when is the object of shopping to take your eyes of your kids? If you're going shopping to get the kids out of your sight, it seems counterproductive to bring them with you. It isn't that hard to look at a price tag with the kid in a cart, my mother managed, while keeping an arm around me no less.

Well, the object of shopping is to look for the items you will buy and purchase them. It isn't hard to let your child stand and look at something, or play with a toy while you scan the shelves or flip through a clothes rack while glancing over at your child every few seconds or so.

You, and your mother, are assuming that the child was physically out of her sight, instead of considering that she simply wasn't looking at the child every moment.

You cannot assume that from the article. If my child is standing next to me and my head is turned, I may very well HEAR a problem before seeing it.

583 posted on 07/24/2006 4:49:35 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: DJ MacWoW

I'm not into playing dodgeball.........are you, or are you not going to answer the questions I posed to you?

If you are not, please tell me, and then refrain from your accusations and call it an evening.


584 posted on 07/24/2006 4:51:00 PM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: Samwise

Sorry to hear.

Seems most times I am shopping, oh, and at work, too, I see parents allowing their children to run around and play at stores.

STORES ARE NOT PLAYGROUNDS.

Parents, control your children when you are in public. Please.

Oh, and if you aren't controlling them, don't be surprised if:

1. I, or someone else, tells you in a loud enough manner to embarrass you, to please get your child under control before they get hurt.

2. your kid gets hurt by the displays or the merchandise they're using as a jungle gym.

Again, sad to hear of this little fellow's death. Sorry for what the family will go through.

jm


585 posted on 07/24/2006 4:51:21 PM PDT by JockoManning (http://www.gravityteen.com)
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To: Gabz; Darkchylde
The bottom line really comes down to : WE DON'T KNOW.

In the article, Mom is quoted as saying she heard a crash. She didn't say she saw it. I can't imagine how she felt. Maybe I was different but I was very careful with my kids. You don't get a 2nd chance. Poor Darkchylde is 21 and I still try to grab her hand. Force of habit. lol You should hear the 35 yr old and 31 yr old when I try to do that to them. They look at me and say "Mom?"

586 posted on 07/24/2006 4:52:49 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Nope. They weren't. My childrens safety was MY responsibility. Wgat is so hard to understand about being responsible for your child?

There is nothing hard to understand about being a responsible parent and you know it. Your problem is that you have claimed a level of supervision that is totally impossible. You said repeatedly that the mother should NEVER have taken her eyes off her child. That is impossible.

Please explain to me how you handled more than 2 children walking in a group with all of them under your COMPLETE control at all times. You can only physically hold on to two.

Explaining that you were strict and blah, blah doesn't work. They were under their own control, and if you didn't physically have a hold on each one or were looking at each one all at the same time, you did not have COMPLETE control over them. You were lucky that they were good kids, obedient to a firm adult and never ran off and got hurt.

587 posted on 07/24/2006 4:57:01 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: Krodg

Is a parent responsible for a 3 yr olds safety while in a store?


588 posted on 07/24/2006 4:58:06 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
*sigh* Go back and read the article. She only HEARD a crash.

If my child is standing next to me (or 5 feet away) and my head is turned, then I might HEAR a dropped toy without seeing it, right?

589 posted on 07/24/2006 4:58:26 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: DJ MacWoW
*sigh* Go back and read the article. She only HEARD a crash.

If my child is standing next to me (or 5 feet away) and my head is turned, then I might HEAR a dropped toy without seeing it, right?

You never responded to this part: Isn't it possible that the mom looked at her child every 5 seconds or so, but didn't happen to be looking at the particular moment the mirror fell?

590 posted on 07/24/2006 5:00:00 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: Gabz

Is a 3 yr old childs safety the responsibility of the parent? That is what this thread is about.


591 posted on 07/24/2006 5:01:03 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

And you are the one who keeps BRAGGING about how your mother would leave you and your siblings while she went into the dressing room...............just because it was the 50s?

HOW DARE YOU condemn this woman for turning her head for a moment when her child was 5 feet away.

Why do you refuse to address that? Is it because you realize the mistake you have made in condemning this woman? I'm truly starting to wonder just what is was that happened in a store because you or your mother turned your head for a moment that makes you so very defensive here.


592 posted on 07/24/2006 5:01:17 PM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: Dianna
Your problem is that you have claimed a level of supervision that is totally impossible

See my post 73. I'm assuming that most parents are smart enough to control their kids. When mine got too big for the carts, they were either in the basket or holding the pocket of my jeans. The MINUTE they let go I knew it and they were back by my side where they belonged. As they got older, when Hubby was along, he'd say, "where do your hands belong?". My boys put their hands in their pockets and stayed beside us.

593 posted on 07/24/2006 5:03:29 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
The child should have been in the cart or she should have had him by the hand. A 3 yr old has no judgement as to what is safe and what isn't.

But a 3 year old, an OBEDIENT 3 year old, can be told to sit right here, honey, and play with your car. The mother could have still been well within sight of the child, and he of her, while she looked for what she needed and glanced at him from time to time to make sure he was still there and behaving.

I don't see a thing wrong with that. Now, IF we were to find out that the child was pulling on the mirror or banging it and the mother didn't notice, I would find the mother to be a problem.

594 posted on 07/24/2006 5:05:32 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: Dianna
If my child is standing next to me (or 5 feet away) and my head is turned, then I might HEAR a dropped toy without seeing it, right?

One more time, is a 3 yr olds safety the responsibility of the parent?

595 posted on 07/24/2006 5:05:56 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Is a 3 yr old childs safety the responsibility of the parent? That is what this thread is about.

Atcually the thread was about a freak accident in a department store that claimed the life of a 3 year old.

You chose to change it into something else.

596 posted on 07/24/2006 5:06:10 PM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: DJ MacWoW
Why do you think a parent is not responsible for their childs safety?

ROFL!!! Find a quote. I've posted plenty to choose from.

597 posted on 07/24/2006 5:06:12 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: Gabz

No, I wasn't. I knew what was expected of me in public. I also knew it was safest near mother.


598 posted on 07/24/2006 5:07:25 PM PDT by Darkchylde (Don't try my brother's coffee!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I have to admit ... I've glossed over SOME posts - but I don't remember seeing anyone saying a parent has no responsibility for their childs safety in public.

What has been said is that we don't know exactly what happened. To label a parent irresponsible from that story is a little extreme. And to imply that some of the posters on this thread are tossing personal responsibility out the window is absurd.


599 posted on 07/24/2006 5:07:51 PM PDT by pamlet
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To: Gabz
HOW DARE YOU condemn this woman for turning her head for a moment when her child was 5 feet away.

Give it a rest. Why was the child not in a cart? Why was the child 5 feet away at the age of only 3? Why did Mom only hear the crash and not see it?

How dare YOU negate a parents responsibility to their childs safety.

600 posted on 07/24/2006 5:09:17 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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