How treaties trump the Constitution (a timely re-post & must read)

World Net Daily ^ | July 04 & 06 | Henry Lamb

[SierraWasp]

BOOKMARKED!!!

This reply is probably the most brilliant I ever seen on FR! It explains the massive success of EnvironMentalistic penetration into our GovernMentalistic institutions and system of laws.

Between this legalistic trigger and the earthchanging graphics sent back from Apollo 11, with the totally isolated planet with only a barely perceptable layer of atmosphere... The court of public opinion with the force of the MSM pushing the Godless form of Pagan EnvironMentalism, enforced by GovernMentalism was spawned.

We then had "Silent Spring" and all forms of entertainment from "China Syndrome," to "Water World," to create a whole new class of Americans you could call "Born Again Pagans!!!"

The Endangered Species Act, The Clean Air Act, The Clean Water Act, in fact many Federal Agencies prior to the EPA were given what I had always considered "unconstitutional" power to regulate every pill we take and the food we eat under T.R.'s regime!

His was the first Presidency to proclaim that if the constitution was "silent," then he could go right ahead and do IT! No prior President had ever believed that entire new tac on constitutional waters!!! By the way... he was NOT an "EnvironMentalist!" He was a big game hunter/slaughterer and he had too much dirt, (part of mother earth's face) moved around to be a "Dirt Worshipper!"

[seasoned traditionalist]

"No bets on whether the Supremes will be able to cobble together a majority to support the clear Constitutional intent of the Framers.

Well, I'm willing to "Bet" on the outcome.

5-4 IN FAVOR of said treaties with the usual suspects (libs) in favor and the other "constructionists" opposed.

Then along comes Sire Kennedy to break the time (In Favor) and will cite as "authority" the history of the Yak in Tibet and the Human Rights History of the Mongols in Russia.

[SierraWasp]

"Politicians need to come clean with the American public - that's who they are responsible to."

They will not, until they fear "The People" as much as people fear their government!!!

[SierraWasp]

Thank you for this ping of ultimate importance!!!

[SierraWasp]

The magic in Henry Lamb's article is that he does what so many of us are just incapable of doing! He bridges the gap between these arcane and cryptic treaties and how they come to effect us in a no longer "free country!"

I believe it was President George WASHINGTON that warned America in his farwell address... "Beware of entangling alliances and treaties." That, from THE founding father of our country!!!

[Jack Black]

NAFTA is not a treaty, it is an "agreement". That is it was passed by a simple majority as it would not have made the 2/3 required to ratify treaties. Thanks Ross, it almost makes up for eight years of Billy-Bob.

[georgiabelle]

Read later

[sergeantdave]

I'm no expert in treaties, but here you go:

"Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule making or legislation which would abrogate them." Miranda v. Arizona, 384 U.S. 436, 491. Also see Marbury v. Madison, 1801.

Treaties are legislation, nothing more. The constitution may be changed only through the amendment process.

And I have yet to read a court ruling that abrogates our rights using a treaty as justification. Perhaps someone will come along and prove me wrong.

That the federal bureaucracy (executive branch) and courts are illegally amending the constitution and ignoring our rights is provable and a fact.

[SierraWasp]

I'm not sure I wholly agree. I fear the temptation of such a body to get bored and start taking the law into their own hands. Politics is the way we change things, resist things, revolt against injustices, etc., in the USA. Not through armed force, or the threat of it!!!

As frustrated as I get, I still prefer pursuasion to coercion or the threat of violence. Look what the "militia" called Hezbollah is doing for Lebanon, today! That's not very smart. It may be quick and bloody, but it ain't very smart!!! And I don't think it's even effective in the long run, do you?

[SierraWasp]

Who you thankin named "Ross?" Ross Perot??? You mean the giant sucking sound to the underbelly of the United States (NAFTA)??? Don't be so cryptic and spell it out here!!!

You are among FRiends here, right?

[BenLurkin]

Only as a last resort.

[SierraWasp]

Well, that I can agree with!!! Although I try to stay away from "resorts" of any kind... (smirk)

[traviskicks]

ping

[OneWingedShark]

Saddly I think you're right... it seems as though POLITICIANS are the problem. We need some statesmen.

[traviskicks]

I spent some time looking over your book at:
http://www.naturalprocess.net/

Wow, very interesting stuff! I'd like to buy it, but the online link was down. Should I send you a check instead?

[Czar]

Truly first class analysis and writing, no doubt about it.

I am also saving it.

[muawiyah]

Wolves, panthers and bears are always a welcome addition in communities overrun with white tailed deer.

[Carry_Okie]

I've killed the online store while I start the process of hawking it at Amazon.

Best to do mail order for now.

[muawiyah]

Your typical treaty usually doesn't affect us at all until "implementing laws" are passed. In that way the US Congress notifies everybody what is "meant" by each of the elements agreed to in the treaty.

Frequently Congress' interpretation of a treaty is at variance with that of the originators.

[michigander]

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