[Marius3188]

History ping!

Funny, I thought Columbus was a saint. Jeez, they were all angels back in the day.

[xrp]

Sounds like Columbus implemented Sharia.

[Tijeras_Slim]

I'm surprised he had time in his busy schedule of destroying indigenous peoples to mess with his own peeps.

[traditional1]

"parading women naked through the streets and selling them"

That wasn't Columbus, you knothead, that was Clinton...

[Reaganesque]

Did Mary Mapes have anything to do with this "document"? 'Cause, I'm pretty sure they didn't have MS Word back in the 1500s.

[DannyTN]

This is the Guardian. Any more reliable source?

[DoctorMichael]

Yea, and the Incas and Mayans cut the living hearts out of their brethren.

[headsonpikes]

Spain's gift to the world is certainly not governance.

Love poetry, perhaps.

[Personal Responsibility]

Talk about short memories. Why is it that people think Democracy has been in practice forever when in reality its use is only some 230 years old. Assuming this is all true about Columbus, it does not come as a surprise. That is simply the way things were then.

[longtermmemmory]

Did dan rather just find this docuement on Columbus' PC?

More fake but accurate?

[Mr. Jeeves]

A woman who dared to suggest that Columbus was of lowly birth was punished by his brother Bartolomé, who had also travelled to the Caribbean. She was stripped naked and paraded around the colony on the back of a mule.

"Bartolomé ordered that her tongue be cut out," said Ms Varela. "Christopher congratulated him for defending the family."

Catholic 1500 = Muslim 2006. So what's the news?

No updates from the Guardian on the long-awaited Islamic Reformation? ;)

[traditional1]

In any case, I'm sure it was Bush's fault.....

[bert]

One of my favorite books growing up was "The Velvet Doublet" by James Street. It vividly describes the meaness and arrogance of Columbus and how it all fit in to the terror wreaked by the Roman Catholic Church on Spanish Jews and Moors.

[bilhosty]

columbus did have his enemies,obviously. If the document is real for good reason. But, one of those enemies or more could have pulled a Mary Mapes as well and the document could be a forgery. We should give Columbus a fair chance before blackening his name.

[yankeedame]

Okay.... I just got done reading the rest the article in The Guardian. Columbus is/was accused of doing this. Columbus is/was accused of doing that, yada,yada,yada.

Yet nowhere in the article (as far a I could tell) was there:

a) The word "produced", i.e. "Spanish historians produced a 48 page document..." We are told they found this thing, but not produced it to the general public.

b) The article doesn't quote -- or even refer to -- any others but these particular Spanish historians. So much for peer review. Maybe b/c, for whatever reason, this discovery was revealed (albeit not produced) to the media before it will be to the academic/historical community.

[metesky]

Columbus was a sissy compared to Cortez.

[dfwgator]

O.G.N.T.S.A.!

[Drawsing]

From the school of critical thought and careful reading: The two examples cited prove nothing about Columbus. It may say something about his brother. Given the present cultural bias against any heroic figures from western civilization, this latest "revelation" is highly suspect.

[B Knotts]

FYI Leftist Guardian defaming our Order's namesake PING

[Tribune7]

You should check out some of the penalties Jefferson advocated.