[musicman]

BTTT !!

[netmilsmom]

Thanks!
I'm going to your booklet now.

You will have probably saved my kids. Bless you.

[BunnySlippers]

BOOKMARK Thanks!

[Argus]

Pets, and what to do about them, is a tough call. Letting dogs run free is not a humane option, both for their potential to die a miserable death from radiation exposure outside and/or to be a danger to others, especially if they get diseased and/or run in the inevitable packs of multitudes of other abandoned pets. Caring for them is ideal, if truly realistic and not a drain on limited resources, while 'putting them down' might eventually become a painful, but necessary reality.

There's a lot of horses and cattle around where I live too. No way to protect them from fallout. I prefer prevention. Missile defense, border enforcement and a really rigorous terrorist profiling program at all points of entry. And, if necessary, torture captured terrorists to find out their plans. One nuclear detonation inside the US would be so much worse than anybody can imagine, stopping it is worth whatever it takes to get the job done.

[GeorgefromGeorgia]

This article ignores the EMP damage to everything electronic. Our cars (except those old 57 Chevys), TVs, Radios, telephones, computers, and more will be inoperable. Cars might be fixable, but what happens to commerce. What happens to all those banks with their servers and electronic data. Will records of savings and investments disappear?

[ansel12]

"This defeatist attitude was born as the disarmament movement ridiculed any alternatives to their agenda. The sound Civil Defense strategies of the '60s have been derided as being largely ineffective, or at worst a cruel joke. With the supposed end of the Cold War in the '80s, most Americans neither saw a need to prepare, nor believed that preparation would do any good."




I have a small collection of civil defense literature.

The 1960 material is written as from one adult to another, it is direct, efficient, and effective.

The 1980 material is simple, non informative gibberish that talks down to the reader and gives almost no practical information.

[VirginiaMom]

bookmark

[ndt]

"Caring for them is ideal, if truly realistic and not a drain on limited resources, while 'putting them down' might eventually become a painful, but necessary reality."

Maybe it's just me (and a few hundred million Asians) but in that situation, my dog might just be sacrificed for the sake of the family.

[PetroniusMaximus]

NEEDS MORE COWBELL!!!

[LittleBillyInfidel]

Unfortunately, there is a critical lack of education on such an event.

I've studied this topic ad naseum in the last six years. The number two problem, after casualties, will be the resultant panic which will ensue because of lack of education.

If anyone is interested in founding a national civilian education and civil defense leadership organization, please contact me to brainstorm some ideas. I have a few positive key ideas which can be put into practice both before and after the worst case scenario.

[RightWhale]

It's true. It would take a long time to recover, but the people would be able to if they want to.

[Prost1]

Gee, all that good news in one article.

I am simply overcome.

[BritExPatInFla]

This defeatist attitude was born as the disarmament movement ridiculed any alternatives to their agenda. The sound Civil Defense strategies of the '60s have been derided as being largely ineffective, or at worst a cruel joke. With the supposed end of the Cold War in the '80s, most Americans neither saw a need to prepare, nor believed that preparation would do any good. Today, with growing prospects of nuclear terrorism, we see emerging among the public either paralyzing fear or irrational denial. People can no longer envision effective preparations for surviving a nuclear attack.

Apples and oranges comparison. Your logic in saying that the "hype and fear" were unfounded in the 60's-80's is weak. The nuclear threat in the time between the 50's and 80's was one of massive, mutual detonations of warheads. THAT would have made survival chances very slim. Today, it's Abdul with a suitcase bomb, a couple hundred thousand might die. In the cold war scenario, a quick death would have been the preferred alternative. Today, it's simply a matter of hoping you're not in the vicinity or downwind of a suitcase nuke or dirty bomb.

[Wiseghy]

There was a site that showed the blast radius of various bombs. Assuming that most terror nukes probably wouldn't go higher than 10kt ground blasts, most any large city would not be totally "destroyed".

Experts in this stuff know that terrorists and rouge nations would go for financial centers and symbolic targets, like the WH and Wall Street. 5 or 6 well placed nukes going off at once would probably bring a nation to its knees economically, followed shortly by the entire developed world. This is the nightmare scenario that terrorists want to carry out. Urban civilization as we know it would be at risk. Just as other civilizations have been attacked and crumbled in the face of new military technology and internal strife, so ours would be under threat in the wake of such an attack, as remaining cities were evacuated or abandoned and political and economic structures reorganized themselves or completely collapsed.

However, by demonstrating fortitude, determination and creativity in attacking organized terror worldwide, this is an entirely avoidable outcome. Attacking finances, organizations and worldwide political support structures as we are now is the only effective way.

Any military expert would say that a good offence is the best defense against this type of aggression, since there are simply too many ways to breech the walls of any given security structure with compact weapons and abundant targets.

GW gets briefed on the likelyhood of this type of attack regularly and this scenario drives much of US policy at the moment, like it or not.

[little jeremiah]

WOT thread?

[Hound of the Baskervilles]

When people asked him what we could do about the bomb, Brother Dave Gardner used to say, "Don't make no difference.... as long as you can say, "What was that?"

[PioneerDrive]

Thanks for the timely post.

[o_zarkman44]

The keys to survival, shelter, food, water, firearms and ammo. Iodine tablets could spare you from radiation sickness. Forget about life as it was pre blast. it will be every man for himself. Every day that relief aid fails to come, people will get more desperate. They will KILL for your food and water. Anarchy will prevail so it is imparitive that you stay put and not travel. Do not place yourself in a position where you may have to share your provisions with neighbors or friends.

As for any disaster drill, people should know by now that FEMA will not come running to save you. You will have to save yourself. And the best plan to save yourself is lay low, be prepared to shoot intruders dead, and protect your provisions.

[sheik yerbouty]

Nuclear winter will offset global warming!

[M Kehoe]

Bttt.

5.56mm