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Plane Crashes in Lexington
WTVQ 36 Lexington ^ | August 27, 2006 | Jon Sasser

Posted on 08/27/2006 4:38:10 AM PDT by BigBlueJon

Edited on 08/27/2006 5:02:21 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Possible plane crash in Lexington, KY. My brother works security for Lexington UK Hospital and was just called in. No news locally or on major news outlets yet. I didn't want to post anything for fear of being wrong, but he's still waiting for an official call while on stand-by.

Update from WTVQ 36 Lexington:

A plane has crashed near the Blue Grass Airport this morning. No word on details at this time. We are told it was a commercial aircraft. Versailles Road is blocked as emergency vehicles circle around the site. We have live coverage beginning at 7:20am. Stay with Action News 36 for more details.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: airplane; bluegrassairport; comair; crash; delta; dl5191; kentucky; lex; lexington; plane; planecrash; terribletragedy; wreck
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To: Erik Latranyi
Fox news said that they were overnighted there and were the first flight in the a.m. But that the crew was well within the rest limits of the FEDS and that airline.
281 posted on 08/27/2006 8:05:18 AM PDT by Battle Axe (Repent for the coming of the Lord is nigh!)
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To: Moose4

I believe you have the scenario correct.

I am also curious with regard to the passengers being able to escape.

I can only imagine a scenario where the impact jammed all four doors on the plane, trapping everyone.


282 posted on 08/27/2006 8:05:46 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: leadpenny
580 is prop, right?

Yep. Basically the same airframe as the CV-240/340/440 series, but either converted to or built as turboprop. The company I used to work for had (probably still has) one for conducting flight tests of various electronic systems. I participated in a series of data collection flights to prove some new (to us anyway) radar signal processing technologies. I started out as the "navigator". I had written a program to calculate an IP and "fly to point" given our altitude, airspeed and wind speed and direction, that would result in our pointing the fixed radar at the desired target area. Originally they were going to implement the algorithm on the test equipments computer, but instead I ended up running it on a laptop sitting in a passenger type seat just behind the cockpit. The nav system operator would read me the winds from the last pass, I'd run the program (which I'd pre loaded with other parameters, and I'd read off the IP and fly-to for the flight crew to input into their separate (but FAA certified) nav system.

Due to other folks getting pulled off for higher priority tasks, I ended up as the flight test engineer on the later flights. Didn't mean anything, the techs knew what they were doing without me telling them. This was all about 10 or 12 years ago.

283 posted on 08/27/2006 8:06:12 AM PDT by El Gato
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To: Battle Axe

I have no doubt they were rested.

However, I have personally witnessed (and chastised) flight crews rushing to depart from a particular airport.


284 posted on 08/27/2006 8:07:27 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: Battle Axe

FoxNews is too focused on the engines. They are ignoring the short runway senario.


285 posted on 08/27/2006 8:09:33 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: Erik Latranyi
...FoxNews is too focused on the engines...

The problem with 24/hr news channels is they have to fill air time and they usually do that by just blathering on and on. The airhead newsreaders come up with their own "brilliant" hypothesis.

It's maddening to watch so I don't.

286 posted on 08/27/2006 8:11:48 AM PDT by FReepaholic (This tagline could indicate global warming.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

The flight crew aren't going to be the only ones with things to answer for here. If the tower was manned, and since the weather was clear (6 mile visibility), I'm going to be interested to find out what the tower controller(s) were doing. I know the final responsibility is always with the captain and flight crew, but I do wonder if an observant tower controller (especially at a low-traffic time like 0600) could have seen Comair 191 turning onto the wrong runway and advised them of the mistake.

}:-)4


287 posted on 08/27/2006 8:12:16 AM PDT by Moose4 (Dirka dirka Mohammed jihad.)
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To: Moose4

You make a great point! The tower is partially responsible for the mistake (if that is what happened).

Unfortunately, the final report will blame pilot error.


288 posted on 08/27/2006 8:15:51 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: Moose4

I've heard the visibility mentioned at 8 miles several times--doesn't sound like the weather caused this to happen!

Pilot error or 'pile o' terror'?


289 posted on 08/27/2006 8:15:53 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX (Bible Thumper and Proud!))
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To: RaceBannon
But, I doubt this is terror, the plane is too small to be a high value target.

True, but a CRJ climbing out of Lexington, KY is certainly a softer target than a 757 climbing out of O'Hare.
290 posted on 08/27/2006 8:15:55 AM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: Battle Axe
I've noticed recently that the planes are FULL. Hardly a seat to be had. Is this the airlines answer to increase the revenue, sell all the unsold seats three days... That fills the plane up and does increase revenue.

YEP, RJ's "give more options to the traveller," OR so the airline exec will tell you. You can offer 3 departure times, versus just one, if you're operating a 737 out of a smaller airport. RJs also cheaper to fly and maintain -- you can keep the seats full and you PAY the pilots a LOT less. I HATE travelling as a PASSENGER in an RJ -- too cramped, bumpy and hot.

Second question: If it was overloaded would it go in tail first and leave the pilot as the survivor?

As a pilot, this sounds like a crash you'd prefer -- if any. Tail hits first, then nose, then breakup and with any luck, the hardened cockpit area and 5-point seat harness will help protect you in a roll. There's plenty of front crewmembers who have survived throughout aviation history, when passengers did not. Survivor's Guilt is a problem later, but at least they're alive.

Aviation's a risky business, but then again, so is driving on the road.

291 posted on 08/27/2006 8:17:22 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2

Looks like the wrong runway.

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N27272288.htm


292 posted on 08/27/2006 8:22:04 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: BigBlueJon
Didn't Pussy Galore's flying circus stage out of that airport?
293 posted on 08/27/2006 8:23:25 AM PDT by jmq (Islam=Religion of Peace)
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To: Erik Latranyi

I thought the NTSB forms all had "pilot error" already filled in. :)

Seriously, I'm not a pilot, but I'm having trouble understanding how this mistake could be made, assuming there's proper signs at the taxiway/runway intersections, that they looked at the airport diagram during taxi, that the pilots actually looked at their gyro/compass, any number of other things. But we're humans, and we're fallible...and we'll have to wait for the NTSB to get to work to get to the bottom of it.

}:-)4


294 posted on 08/27/2006 8:23:39 AM PDT by Moose4 (Dirka dirka Mohammed jihad.)
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To: spanalot

If this was a case of taking off on the wrong runway, the next question is how long was this crew's layover last night? Were they rested? Did they do a standing overnight with 3 or 4 hours in the hotel before being run back out to the jet?


295 posted on 08/27/2006 8:24:12 AM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: Old_Mil

Using Google earth, the crash site is .24 miles off the end of runway 8/26 (shorter one). Local news is starting to get some unofficial


296 posted on 08/27/2006 8:34:52 AM PDT by gswilder
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To: Jo Nuvark
You're up early today.

I was. Woke up early, and flipped on the radio.

Drudge is SO yesterday. (Gargle)

297 posted on 08/27/2006 8:35:23 AM PDT by don-o (Proudly posting without reading the thread since 1998. (stolen from one cool dude))
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To: BP2

298 posted on 08/27/2006 8:38:36 AM PDT by BigBlueJon (Superman wears Jack Bauer pajamas to bed.......Jack Bauer wears George W pajamas.)
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To: Erik Latranyi
You make a great point! The tower is partially responsible for the mistake (if that is what happened). Unfortunately, the final report will blame pilot error.

Everytime I attend an FAA Safety Seminar, the speaker (usually a controller) always mentions the fact that "If I screw up..., I feel bad but, at least I GO HOME..., YOU MAY NOT BE SO LUCKY!"

VERY TRUE!!!

299 posted on 08/27/2006 8:38:46 AM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: gswilder
Google Map of Airport

Given the runway alignments, I can't imagine there is much mystery here. You can see the out buildings on a straight line from the short runway.
300 posted on 08/27/2006 8:38:51 AM PDT by Daus
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