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The needle and the damage done
Times Herald ^ | 8/27/06 | Gordon Glantz

Posted on 08/28/2006 10:40:29 AM PDT by qam1

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To: bassmaner

Ahhh, Pearl Glam, one of the most overrate banda around. Next time you hear one of their songs, just sing Yeahhhh, yeahhhh over it and it sounds just as good. Eddie Vedder started taking himself WAYYYY yo seriously.

Oh even flow-YEahhhhhh!


41 posted on 08/28/2006 12:54:12 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: qam1
Want a real songwriter with a real mystique?

Hank Williams

He died at age 29, and was a true influence on American country music.

42 posted on 08/28/2006 12:56:54 PM PDT by ihatemyalarmclock (')
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To: qam1

I don't know just where I'm going
But I'm gonna try for the kingdom, if I can
'Cause it makes me feel like I'm a man
When I put a spike into my vein
And I'll tell ya, things aren't quite the same
When I'm rushing on my run
And I feel just like Jesus' son
And I guess that I just don't know
And I guess that I just don't know

I have made the big decision
I'm gonna try to nullify my life
'Cause when the blood begins to flow
When it shoots up the dropper's neck
When I'm closing in on death
And you can't help me not, you guys
And all you sweet girls with all your sweet silly talk
You can all go take a walk
And I guess that I just don't know
And I guess that I just don't know

I wish that I was born a thousand years ago
I wish that I'd sail the darkened seas
On a great big clipper ship
Going from this land here to that
In a sailor's suit and cap
Away from the big city
Where a man can not be free
Of all of the evils of this town
And of himself, and those around
Oh, and I guess that I just don't know
Oh, and I guess that I just don't know

Heroin, be the death of me
Heroin, it's my wife and it's my life
Because a mainer to my vein
Leads to a center in my head
And then I'm better off and dead
Because when the smack begins to flow
I really don't care anymore
About all the Jim-Jim's in this town
And all the politicians makin' crazy sounds
And everybody puttin' everybody else down
And all the dead bodies piled up in mounds

'Cause when the smack begins to flow
Then I really don't care anymore
Ah, when the heroin is in my blood
And that blood is in my head
Then thank God that I'm as good as dead
Then thank your God that I'm not aware
And thank God that I just don't care
And I guess I just don't know
And I guess I just don't know

-Velvet Underground-


43 posted on 08/28/2006 12:58:25 PM PDT by Hoodat ( ETERNITY - Smoking, or Non-smoking?)
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To: grellis

Although I'm a child of the era, Pink Floyd never caught my fancy. Perhaps there are one or two songs that I love, but just am not aware that they're Pink Floyd classics, but overall -- I remember everytime I was around folks who wanted to listen to Pink Floyd, it was MAJOR DOWNERSVILLE, man. Spooky. Tragic. Cold. Icelandic. Pink Floyd gave me the creeps, for all their musical sophistication.


44 posted on 08/28/2006 12:58:42 PM PDT by Finny (God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, safety and success.)
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To: dfwgator
No, not the Knack, it was MTV that destroyed disco. It took disco and made even worse disco with Madonna, bad disco that continues to this day with the likes of former Mickey Mouse club members (literally) Jason Timberlake, Britney Spears and Christina Aguelera and their pilot microphones.

"Who's the leader of the club That's made for you and me M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E Hey! there, Hi! there, Ho! there You're as welcome as can be M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E Mickey Mouse! Mickey Mouse! Forever let us hold our banner High! High! High! High! Come along and sing a song And join the jamboree! M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E Mickey Mouse club We'll have fun We'll be new faces High! High! High! High! We'll do things and We'll go places All around the world We'll go marching Who's the leader of the club That's made for you and me M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E Hey! there, Hi! there, Ho! there You're as welcome as can be M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E Mickey Mouse! Mickey Mouse! Forever let us hold our banner High! High! High! High! Come along and sing a song And join the jamboree! M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E "

45 posted on 08/28/2006 12:59:02 PM PDT by Screamname (A second plane has just hit the second tower, this is a coincidence. - Katie Couric, Sept 11th 2001)
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To: Screamname

If you haven't already seen it, check out John's "Live Peace in Toronto" video. That shows a John Lennon who is obviously severely messed up.

I'm a huge Beatles fan and subjected my kids to a steady diet of them when they were little, including the movies. My kids loved them. When the kids got a little older I showed them the "Live Peace in Toronto" video and told them that John was an example of what drugs can do to you. It scared the heck out of them.


46 posted on 08/28/2006 12:59:10 PM PDT by KevinB
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To: Screamname
Yeah but before Cobain, punk rock was pretty much still an underground music that really hadn`t been pushed to it`s limits.

Sorry - but Iggy Stooge singing 'Cock in My Pocket" in 1969 had already pushed punk rock as far to the limits as it could go. Johnny-come-latelys like Cobain were merely copying what had been done 25 years earlier.

47 posted on 08/28/2006 1:00:04 PM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: ihatemyalarmclock

I just caught the Hank bug this weekend.

I got a wild hair two days ago and bought about 50 of his songs online.

Excellent.


48 posted on 08/28/2006 1:00:42 PM PDT by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings...Modesty hides my thighs in her wings...)
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To: qam1

I'm not saying we should start a bonfire with works of art from those who compromised their abilities through fatal addictions. But understand that they broke a bond with society because they could have and should have given us more.

That many people idolize artist for other than the merits of their art is as bad as saying an artist has a responsibility or obligation to society to continue producing art. Granted, art consumers are left without new art from their artist(s) of choice but the artist creates art for himself or herself, not out of responsibility or obligation to society. The responsibility and obligation is to themselves. And they may change that at anytime. As it is, business, science and art continue to advance not out of responsibility or obligation to society, but rather, to each individual self. Individuals and society benefit from the freedom-of-association arrangement of each person acting in their self-interest.

49 posted on 08/28/2006 1:02:21 PM PDT by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: Screamname
punk rock was pretty much still an underground music that really hadn`t been pushed to it`s limits.

Much of it is still underground & it is still pushing the limits. My kiddo's latest album has a song with a real rock-a-billy flavor, least I think it's the latest album. They're sharing a single with a Japanese band & I'm not sure if it's out yet or not.

Punk is not to my taste, though there are some "moments", mostly break through tunes, like some of Blondie's stuff.

I agree with you about Nirvana, a much needed breath of fresh air.

50 posted on 08/28/2006 1:02:54 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: dfwgator
From the top right, that is Justin, below him is Christina, and below Christina is Britany. This is what rules music today, the Mickey Mouse club. Can it get any lower?


51 posted on 08/28/2006 1:03:49 PM PDT by Screamname (A second plane has just hit the second tower, this is a coincidence. - Katie Couric, Sept 11th 2001)
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To: Finny
I think the "major downersville" that repels you is what draws most of their fans. A lot of people are drawn to somber music. Floyd's music wasn't all that somber, but the themes were.

Actually, their music wasn't always like that. The further Barrett travelled into insanity, the more depressing Floyd's themes became.

52 posted on 08/28/2006 1:07:12 PM PDT by grellis (I don't know, let me ask my I Ching)
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To: qam1

I never really considered neil young to be anti-drug, since he's stoned all the time.


53 posted on 08/28/2006 1:08:32 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: PzLdr
had a secretary in the '80s who came in fired up about this "new" song by Tom Petty and Stevie Nicks - "Needles and Pins".

A while back someone in the school paper where I teach refered to "Come Together" as an Aerosmith song.

54 posted on 08/28/2006 1:10:51 PM PDT by murdoog
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To: Screamname

I like the babe in the middle. Why isn't she famous?


55 posted on 08/28/2006 1:11:15 PM PDT by KevinB
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To: qam1
[ I have obviously since lost my touch, as I can't understand why this Pete Yorn kid isn't a deity and why hip-hop is considered music ]

or RAP being humans merely acting like chimpanzees..

56 posted on 08/28/2006 1:13:43 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole.)
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To: Finny

I saw them live in the Kingdome on "The Wall" tour.

Greatest sonic experience I ever had, bar none.


57 posted on 08/28/2006 1:13:54 PM PDT by djf (Some people say we evolved. I say "Some did, some didn't!")
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To: Screamname

Iggy in 1968. Now - THAT'S punk!

58 posted on 08/28/2006 1:15:34 PM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: KevinB
She probably couldn`t sing in the required Mariah Carey acrobatic style of singing.


59 posted on 08/28/2006 1:16:51 PM PDT by Screamname (A second plane has just hit the second tower, this is a coincidence. - Katie Couric, Sept 11th 2001)
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To: qam1
Dear Gordon Glantz,

60 posted on 08/28/2006 1:17:45 PM PDT by evets (beer)
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