Labor Unions Support Timecard Fraud?

Has this been uncovered in your city? The City did the right thing in disciplining these cheaters, but the Labor Unions think it's "wrong" to cheat someone out of cheating (I suppose).

1 posted on 09/07/2006 1:05:00 PM PDT by TucsonJames

Labor Unions = most amount of money for the least amount of work.

2 posted on 09/07/2006 1:06:09 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)

+ no accountability for the little work that is done.

3 posted on 09/07/2006 1:07:42 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)

+ thuggery to collect dues and increase membership.

4 posted on 09/07/2006 1:08:39 PM PDT by shankbear

I remember hearing in the longshoremans contract that had to be CAUGHT stealing 3x's before they could be fired.

Geez

5 posted on 09/07/2006 1:10:18 PM PDT by Walkingfeather (u)

Labor Unions Support Timecard Fraud?

Does a bear...oh, never mind!

A former autoworker I know has regaled me with the stories of how
his Chrysler co-workers would spend their time at a local drinking-hole...
while still on the clock.
I think there was an unwritten system to say that low-senority
unionists would handle the punch-out for the higher-senority types.

This was back in the 1980s.

6 posted on 09/07/2006 1:11:07 PM PDT by VOA

I worked in a union and as a manager of union employees.

You can't give good employees raises or bonuses because it is a union. Basically, time becomes currency of incentive. Despite the fact that it is technically not allowed, time off was given as a reward all the time.

My attitude as a manager was that if the work got done and I was meeting my objectives I was happy to let people go home early or sit in the lounge on a Sunday and watch the football game. It wasn't only me, this was common practice. It is really the only way to make your objectives as a manager the objectives of otherwise unmotivated union employees. You can try hard nosed enforcement and it works to a large degree, but one day you will need to ask those same workers to go above and beyond and they won't for a hard nose. This under the table bargaining happens in one form or another everywhere there is a union.

The key difference in this story compared to other similar ones is that the supervisor is punching the timecards. If the workers were punching time cards for each other they were running a scam. When the boss does it, he's usually buying productivity with time off.

When things are running smoothly this kind of thing tends to get swept under the carpet. I would say there is something more to the story that we don't know.

7 posted on 09/07/2006 2:02:44 PM PDT by Ragnorak

"so people could go home to be with their families."

So if the firemen did this to be with their family and your lousy house burned down and killed 8 of your kids, you would be OK with that?

8 posted on 09/07/2006 2:09:59 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)

I used to subcontract trim carpentry work. The condos were framed by Union carpenters. What a mess! I never saw so many cigarette breaks. They did shoddy work and it took 3 times longer. (Milk the job you know) Try setting a door in an opening framed by a Union slob! The units were drywalled by contractors while the Union drywallers picketed the job sight. All they had to do was put down the Union sign and go to work.

9 posted on 09/07/2006 2:10:58 PM PDT by 4yearlurker (12th district Freeper.)

When I was an assistant Business Agent in the Union and later as a Manager this was one the issues that pissed me off was Time Sheet Theft. It gave everyone a bad rep at grievances. If you want to cut a good guy some slack there are better ways.

10 posted on 09/07/2006 2:57:48 PM PDT by Little Bill (A 37%'r, a Red Spot on a Blue State, rats are evil.)

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