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1 posted on 09/12/2006 1:05:43 PM PDT by saganite
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It is my opinion that this is STILL a worthwhile avenue to pursue...


2 posted on 09/12/2006 1:19:16 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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The scientific establishment resisting a new idea? Maybe even faking something in order to disprove it? With a little character assassination thrown in just for spice?

Who woulda thunk it...
3 posted on 09/12/2006 1:24:04 PM PDT by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
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I suspect any power-producing reaction whose existence can be argued about this much isn't going to be of much use, except for theorists.

How about sonoluminescence being a sort of Cherenkov radiation produced by in-spinning bubble components ridding themselves of excess energy to stay under local c as they conserve angular momentum?

4 posted on 09/12/2006 1:27:59 PM PDT by Grut
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If they can't replicate the original experiment with the plans in hand, somdebody sure screwed up. And is going to pay.

Unfortunately, the nonsense about outside "audits" in lieu of outside replication should bring an instant cry of "BULLSHIT!" from every physicist in the house.

6 posted on 09/12/2006 2:00:46 PM PDT by balrog666 (Ignorance is never better than knowledge. - Enrico Fermi)
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Funny thing is, the three old women huddled in the corner chanting "Double, double, toil and trouble - Fire burn and cauldron bubble..."


7 posted on 09/12/2006 2:04:36 PM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Free Introspection Classes - Inquire Within)
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This is all part of the gov't funded CTNF crowd to deep six Cold Fusion, it's been going on since 1989. No business(and CTNF is a BUSINESS, that will NEVER get over unity energy, but ALWAYS gets over unity FUNDING of your tax dollars)ever funds its competitor that will put IT out of business. Do you have access to a mass spectrometer and $100 for parts? To wit, a 6V battery charger, stainless steel cup and spoon, BB beads, coffee filters, plastic brochure cover, drum-type nickel coating of BB beads(at local jeweler), photographic fluid(KOH)...in a weeks run you transmute the Ni into a whole spectrum of elements as the electrolyte cell cooks away at about 100:1 output over input. As an architect I did this on the kitchen counter. My mass-spec test showed the usual high tritium spike plus K41 went from 8% natural abundance to 15% by actual count.....Thus you see that there is a conspiracy against CF/LENR/sonofusion and this journalist is just one more hit man in a long list of hit men, don't even bother listening to them anymore, you KNOW where they are coming from...LIARS one and all.


9 posted on 09/12/2006 2:40:30 PM PDT by timer
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Geez, folks. (BTW, the particular claim doesn't matter.)

Rule One. The Scientific Method cannot prove anything. Indeed, its only purpose is to disprove false assertions and hypotheses.

Rule Two. Whenever somebody -- anybody -- claims that they have scientifically proven something -- hold onto your wallet and check the silver drawer.

The point of scientific challenge and technical criticism is to knock holes in things.

What a bunch of whiners. Challenge and disbelief are the foundations of good science. Believing what you are told is fine when it's your parents or your priest talking, but not some scientist out on a grant.

When scientists make assertions, they are SUPPOSED to get challenged. HARD.

11 posted on 09/12/2006 4:06:18 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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I think I'd like to own a scintillation detector.
13 posted on 09/12/2006 4:14:52 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God is, and (2) God is good?)
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ping for tomorrow


27 posted on 09/12/2006 9:42:17 PM PDT by CollegeRepublican
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