[Syco]

What concerns me is that the Vatican seems to be capitulating to these goons. They are issuing statements like "The Pope meant no offense."

Ya know what, if the Vatican doesn't stand it's ground they're going to come out of this the way they did after WWII when they didn't take a STRONG stand against the Holocaust. They need to grow a backbone and say, "Yeah, Islam IS evil and violent, and you morons are just proving the point!"

But I'm not gonna hold my breath.

[maryz]

Your post proves it doesn't matter. The Vatican took a stronger stand than anyone else during the Holocaust. Even the NYT (back when it was sane) said so immediately after WWII. Perhaps he could have said more, but in his judgment it would have made things worse for many people living under the Nazis. In any case, I can't think of anyone else who said anything.

Of course, the Pope individually is not the one who will feel the worst of Muslim rage -- Christians (even non-Catholic Christians) in Muslim countries are being attacked and having their churches burned.

Would you have him be like Salmon Rushdie, who went into hiding when his book inspired a fatwa against him and who nevertheless got out word that bookstores should display his book prominently, leaving minimum-wage clerks to risk the wrath of offended Muslims?

[technomage]

What concerns me is that the Vatican seems to be capitulating to these goons.

Is that not the way of the West now?

"Oh, we are so sorry we drew a cartoon of Mo.

"Oh, we apologize for saying some in the name of Islam are freekin' lunatics"

One thing all of this capitulation is doing is causing these Islamic idiots to become even bolder.

After all, the jihadists now know: Threaten the West with violence, they will back down and we will get our way.

[right-wingin_It]

But its true...the Pope didn't speak to offend. Afirming that one's intentions were not to offend is NOT "backing down," or anywhere close to a retraction.

[zarf]

LOL! Watch the Vatican pull a George 'Jet Puffed' Allen macaca grovelfest.

Come on Pope B, let's do the Islamic macaca grovel!!

[Campion]

Ya know what, if the Vatican doesn't stand it's ground they're going to come out of this the way they did after WWII when they didn't take a STRONG stand against the Holocaust.

This is the second time I've had to do this tonight.

You don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Read David Dalin's book A Righteous Gentile ... that's Rabbi David Dalin, BTW. Then come back and tell me the Vatican didn't take a STRONG stand against the Holocaust.

It's really sad when FReepers swallow every d--n lie perpetrated by the left and the MSM.