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Why Darwinism Is Doomed
WorldNetDaily ^ | 09/27/2006 | Jonathan Wells

Posted on 09/27/2006 9:56:09 AM PDT by SirLinksalot

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To: Last Visible Dog

I've been nice, and limited my criticism of the article to what is objectively defensible. If you insist on having a subjective "personal opinion" I can give you one. I doubt that you'll like it.


1,161 posted on 10/05/2006 5:15:52 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: taxesareforever
Psst, psst. Point me in the direction of the "perfect" people. That's for you to prove.

No where did I ever claim this.


You and I are in basic agreement over many, many things.

I merely want the 'daily' claim pointed to clearly.

(I think that if I were to check into a local hospital's census; I could find a coma case. I really doubt that this person is going to 'sin' daily.)

1,162 posted on 10/05/2006 5:24:41 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: taxesareforever
Point me in the direction of the "perfect" people.

Will 'trying to acheive perfection' count? ;^)



NIV Matthew 5:48
   Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
 

NIV Matthew 19:21
  Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."

1,163 posted on 10/05/2006 5:27:59 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: tacticalogic
If you insist on having a subjective "personal opinion" I can give you one. I doubt that you'll like it.

You are not making sense again - you are going to give my a "personal opinion"? Yeah. Right. Whatever...

1,164 posted on 10/05/2006 1:06:10 PM PDT by Last Visible Dog
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To: Elsie

Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

This includes a person who is in a coma. If one is born in sin one cannot toss sin away. It can only be taken away by God, thur Christ. Why do we die? It's because that is the punishment for our sinfulness.


1,165 posted on 10/05/2006 1:11:39 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: Elsie
Will 'trying to acheive perfection' count? ;^)

Only thing that counts is faith in Jesus Christ. He has done it all for us. 1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. Is. 64.6 But we are all as an unclean thing, an all our righteousnesses are as filty rags:....

1,166 posted on 10/05/2006 2:00:28 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: Last Visible Dog
You are not making sense again - you are going to give my a "personal opinion"? Yeah. Right. Whatever..

Wells is a charlatan, a fraud, and a liar. He's a stark raving, bible thumping fundamentalist moonie-bat, who's gone out and gotten himself a degree in biology for the sole purpose of using it to try and pass off his theologcical preaching as "science". He's trying to pass himself off as a "scientist", and his opinions as "scientific" when he doesn't have, and never did have the slightest intention of allowing anything as objective as the scientific method anywhere near his methodology or conclusions.

1,167 posted on 10/05/2006 3:56:27 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
Wells is a charlatan, a fraud, and a liar

That would be a qualitative judgment - remember, you are trying to defend your quantitative statement.

1,168 posted on 10/06/2006 5:29:18 AM PDT by Last Visible Dog
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To: Last Visible Dog
That would be a qualitative judgment - remember, you are trying to defend your quantitative statement.

All the evidence to support it is in the article, whether you choose to see it as evidence or not.

1,169 posted on 10/06/2006 5:56:21 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
All the evidence to support it is in the article, whether you choose to see it as evidence or not.

Clearly you still don't understand the difference between qualitative and quantitative.

That has been the issue all along.

1,170 posted on 10/06/2006 6:39:34 AM PDT by Last Visible Dog
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To: taxesareforever

He has done it all for us.

(Bears repeating - LOUDLY!!!)

1,171 posted on 10/06/2006 7:04:01 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Last Visible Dog

If it's "in the eye of the beholder", then there is no objective reference to say whether any difference actually exists.


1,172 posted on 10/06/2006 7:04:31 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Elsie
(More perfection...)


 
 

NIV 2 Corinthians 13:11
   Finally, brothers, good-by. Aim for perfection, listen to my appeal, be of one mind, live in peace. And the God of love and peace will be with you.
 

NIV 2 Corinthians 13:9
   We are glad whenever we are weak but you are strong; and our prayer is for your perfection.
 

NIV Philippians 3:12
   Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already been made perfect, but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me.
 

NIV Colossians 1:28
   We proclaim him, admonishing and teaching everyone with all wisdom, so that we may present everyone perfect in Christ.
 

NIV Hebrews 10:11-14
 11.  Day after day every priest stands and performs his religious duties; again and again he offers the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins.
 12.  But when this priest had offered for all time one sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God.
 13.  Since that time he waits for his enemies to be made his footstool,
 14.  because by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy.
 

NIV Hebrews 11:40
   God had planned something better for us so that only together with us would they be made perfect.

1,173 posted on 10/06/2006 7:06:45 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: tacticalogic
If it's "in the eye of the beholder", then there is no objective reference to say whether any difference actually exists.

You still don't get it - "in the eye of the beholder" refers to the presentation of evidence by the author of the position - you may retort with a qualitative argument but you are attempting to retort with a quantitative argument and it is not working.

You still don't understand the difference between qualitative and quantitative and so you are relegated to the "PeeWee Herman" style retorts: "Is not...is not...is not...is not..."

1,174 posted on 10/06/2006 7:23:23 AM PDT by Last Visible Dog
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To: Last Visible Dog
You still don't understand the difference between qualitative and quantitative

An entirely qualitative statement, ie your "personal opinion".

Say hello to your own petard.

1,175 posted on 10/06/2006 7:28:23 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
An entirely qualitative statement, ie your "personal opinion".

Yes, my qualitative analysis is you don't understand the difference between qualitative and quantitative. And your point is....?

You might want to look up the word "petard" - looks like you don't understand the meaning of that word either.

This is pointless. You clearly don't have the remotest clue as to what you are talking about (btw: that is a qualitative statement)

1,176 posted on 10/06/2006 8:18:59 AM PDT by Last Visible Dog
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To: Last Visible Dog
This is pointless. You clearly don't have the remotest clue as to what you are talking about (btw: that is a qualitative statement)

The statement will be given all the consideration due all such statements from idiots.

1,177 posted on 10/06/2006 8:23:52 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
The statement will be given all the consideration due all such statements from idiots.

Now you turn to personal attacks - so predictable.

1,178 posted on 10/06/2006 8:49:23 AM PDT by Last Visible Dog
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To: Last Visible Dog

No personal attack. Simply a qualitative assesment.


1,179 posted on 10/06/2006 9:02:17 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
No personal attack. Simply a qualitative assesment.

Face it - you turned to name-calling and personal attacks because you ran out of intellectual ammunition.

1,180 posted on 10/06/2006 10:14:01 AM PDT by Last Visible Dog
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