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Finland's Nazi Past
Serbianna ^ | September 13, 2006 | Carl Savich

Posted on 10/08/2006 11:49:45 AM PDT by Bokababe

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To: Hoplite

How did Finland get mixed up with the Serbs?


41 posted on 10/08/2006 2:25:24 PM PDT by Torie
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To: HostileTerritory
Don't be silly... of COURSE Finland's involvement in World War II can be traced directly to an interest in promoting Islamofascist genocide against Christian Serbs five decades in the future.

I am American and I see their point.

The former Yugoslavia has been carved up in the last 15 years to precisely the same configuration that Nazi Germany had for it during WWII. Germany was the first to recognize Slovenia and Croatia as independent countries in 1992. Germany has taken over the UN management of Kosovo, and German -- not English anymore-- is the second language to learn in the Balkans now. German allies are in positions of power and Nazi German allies (including the Bosnian Muslims and Albanians) are in favorable positions and those who opposed the Nazi Germany back then are getting screwed now. They are not wrong on this.

For years, the Serbs screamed about Kurt Waldheim being a WWII Nazi, and no one listened, but they were right. For years, Serbs screamed that Muslims are not who you think they are, and no one listened -- until 9/11. They weren't paranoid then and they aren't paranoid now.

Lest you think that I have some "racist problem with the Finns", think again. Although on my mother's side, her family came from Montnengro for as long as anyone can remember, I participated in the National Geographic genome project a few months back. On my mother's side, I come from Haplog U5, the same genes, race and blood as the Finns, and only the Finns. No one in the family can figure it out -- father's genes may or not be who they are supposed to be, but mother's genes almost always are. This is a major mystery to all of us! Somehow all my mother's mothers were from Finland and then were transported to Montenegro at some point in time that no one can remember.

42 posted on 10/08/2006 2:34:33 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Torie

Martti Ahtesaari, mediator for Kosovo, who was a former president of Finland.


43 posted on 10/08/2006 2:36:10 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Torie

In addition to Ahtisaari running the show on the UN side, the Finns have provided troops for peacekeeping in both Bosnia and Kosovo.


44 posted on 10/08/2006 2:52:21 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite

I have a law partner who is of Finn origin (a Keary). I will give him a high five.


45 posted on 10/08/2006 2:54:40 PM PDT by Torie
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To: HostileTerritory
Don't be silly... of COURSE Finland's involvement in World War II can be traced directly to an interest in promoting Islamofascist genocide against Christian Serbs five decades in the future.

LOL!!

46 posted on 10/08/2006 3:07:58 PM PDT by RodgerD
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To: rahbert
Interesting.

Finns can be held blameless for jumping back into warfare against the USSR. However, if you were from Estonia or Latvia and joined up with the Waffen SS, you made a very big mistake.

47 posted on 10/08/2006 3:14:58 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: kronos77

The Croats and Albanians joined with the Nazis to destroy Jews, Gypsies and Serbians.


48 posted on 10/08/2006 3:20:56 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Bokababe
The former Yugoslavia has been carved up in the last 15 years to precisely the same configuration that Nazi Germany had for it during WWII.

Well, no. There was no independent Slovenia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, or Macedonia in the Nazi era. Slovenia was annexed to Germany and Italy, Bosnia was governed by Croatia, and most of Macedonia was given to Bulgaria. Kosovo was annexed to Italy's puppet regime in Albania (or maybe it was direct Italian annexation.) In addition, big chunks of land that make up Vojvodina in modern Serbia were given to Hungary, which has generally not shown much territorial revanchism in the modern era.

Germany's initiatives everywhere in the world have all been taken in spite of what was done in World War II, not to follow up.
49 posted on 10/08/2006 3:21:09 PM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: muawiyah

It would be interesting to know how many Albanians alive in Kosovo in the 1990s had reached adulthood by World War II, let alone served in any kind of military group at the time. It's hard to reconcile "you did this to us" with the accompanying claim that "you breed like rabbits to swamp us" which would lead to a very low average age.

Although if you consider 1389 to be recent history, 1941 may as well have been last week. Ah, collective, inherited guilt. One of mankind's best ideas.


50 posted on 10/08/2006 3:25:09 PM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: Bokababe

Middle Ages slave sales ~ never forget that slavery was big time in the Balkans right down to the end of Turkish occupation.


51 posted on 10/08/2006 3:26:19 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: HostileTerritory
The Kosovo Albanians were the ones who started the bloodshed in the recent war. They were the ones attacking police and civilians - including other Albanians who didn't agree with their politics.

In addition, there were New York Times reports in the early and mid-1980's about Albanians terrorizing Serbs into leaving Kosovo.

Many have been of the same agenda as their parents and grandparents over the years to pressure Serbs out and take over Kosovo.

52 posted on 10/08/2006 3:28:24 PM PDT by joan
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To: joan; Hoplite
The Kosovo Albanians were the ones who started the bloodshed in the recent war. They were the ones attacking police and civilians - including other Albanians who didn't agree with their politics.

What "war" might that be? Surely not the "war" where Slobo sent about a million Kovovars on the road out. The desire of the Serbian choir to rule impoverished Islamic Kosovars who speak a different language, and dislike to hate Serbs, for good reason, strikes me as totally bizarre, just nutter. In fact, if Kosovo were really incorporated into Serbia, by 2050 Muslims would be a majority in Serbia. Nutter, nutter, nutter.

53 posted on 10/08/2006 3:37:48 PM PDT by Torie
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To: AndrewB

LOL!!!

I used to live next door to a gorgeous Finnish gal, and I think that song was on an almost constant loop in my mind for three years!She always spoke Finnish to her sons who were my son's best friends, and I laughed at her that even when she was being sweet, the language made the words sound like she was fussing at them!

Odd that they were not considered Aryan==she and one son had the absolute whitest hair I have ever seen on someone not albino, and they looked like poster children for the Nazi's!


54 posted on 10/08/2006 3:42:20 PM PDT by Rutabega (European 'intellectualism' has NOTHING on America's kick-a$$ism!)
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To: Torie
The Albanians only streamed out AFTER NATO started bombing 24/7, and they were ordered to leave by the KLA and their clan leaders.

A German journalist, with military background, testified at the Hague how he saw lists which had been drawn up, over a month before the bombing/exodus, by the KLA with priority villages/towns set for evacuation - and those very places were the first to be emptied.

Also, there were not even noticeable scratches, bruises, dirty clothing, etc. on 99.99% or greater as they were met by swarms of news media and photographers after their fairly short trip to the border.

Macedonia medical personal testified that they weren't in need of medical care as they first came into the country.

55 posted on 10/08/2006 3:47:19 PM PDT by joan
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To: joan

No of course, Slobo was not interested in extirpating Islamic Kosovars form Kosovo. Of course not. Of course Slobo did nothing to facilitate their departure. Perish the thought! Slobo's hands are as "clean" as that Pope during the Hitler regime, who cleasned them near hourly, as a sort of fetish, to ward off the germs. Of course.


56 posted on 10/08/2006 3:51:28 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
Slobo presided over Kosovo for years before the NATO bombing, and there were not any murders, to my knowledge, against Albanians before the KLA formed.

So are you saying he waiting all those years to time an expulsion to NATO bombings?

57 posted on 10/08/2006 3:53:57 PM PDT by joan
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To: Torie
Albanians lived and still live in Belgrade by the 10s of thousands, and they didn't leave while Slobo ruled. Neither were they or their property harmed during the bombing or after.

Violent, militant separatists were in Kosovo, controlling significant parts of its territory, which expanded and ebbed depending on their attacks/aggression and Serb counterattacks to control them. There were training bases set up in Northern Albania, and many were traveling to Kosovo and back to fight. Serbia had a right to protect its territory and land.

The numbers dead as hyped by the press were like all the Balkan war propaganda - OVER EXAGGERATING THE MUSLIM AND NON-SERB DEAD, AND EXAGGERING THE CIVILIAN VERSUS MILITANT DEAD.

The Albanian population DIDN'T fall under Milosevic's rule, nor did the war cause any noticeable decrease.

Comparted to genuine genocides and what happened to the Jews - YOU COULD SEE A DIFFERENCE IN CENSUS RESULTS AND POPULATION COMPOSITION - which is NOT the case for Balkan Muslims.

You've been too much brainwashed by NATO-state sponsored propaganda/books/media/academia to promote their NWO Balkans agenda.

58 posted on 10/08/2006 4:02:32 PM PDT by joan
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To: joan; Hoplite
What came first, NATO intervention, or kosovar exit? In a senior moment, I don't remember the exact time line. In any event, Slobo was squeezing the Kosavars, and squeezing them hard. He has dissolved the autonomous Kosovo's status, cut off Kosovars from the government tit, and put in place his own hacks, and in fact had assumed power over being a tough guy over Kosovo.
59 posted on 10/08/2006 4:03:00 PM PDT by Torie
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To: joan

Just why do impoverished Serbs (rejected by Europe as not clubbable) want to rule over just or even more iimpoverished Islamic Kosovars who hate their guts (90% of the population), for good reason, but even without good reason, just do? It all seems insane to me. I suggest you think about Vaclav Havel, the president of the Czech Republic, who said, when Slovakia wanted to go, let them go, the sooner the better. And the Czech Republic rid themselves of a millstone, and it was good. And do it goes.


60 posted on 10/08/2006 4:10:27 PM PDT by Torie
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