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Norman warns PGA Tour's future in trouble (Blames Tiger Woods)
Fox Sports ^ | 10/11/06 | AP

Posted on 10/11/2006 11:52:00 AM PDT by wagglebee

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To: gumboyaya

Some do and some don't. The smart ones do. Tiger is in the smart catagory.


141 posted on 10/11/2006 3:25:55 PM PDT by em2vn
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To: Tax-chick
"GO VIJAY!"

"Depending upon whose version you believe, it was either a doctored scorecard or he was made a scapegoat for a tour official's error.

In any event, he was accused of cheating and banned from tournament golf for two years.

Singh was more or less blacklisted. He could not play and every job he applied for was denied until he caught on at a golf club that may be considered the most remote frontier in golf, the Keningau Club deep in the rain forests of Borneo where American oil workers went for rest and relaxation."

yitbos

142 posted on 10/11/2006 3:27:47 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds. " - Ayn Rand)
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To: em2vn
"When it comes to money, Tiger isn't close to Norman's level."

Golf's first Billion-Dollar Man

~snip~

"In the furious run-up to Woods' "Hello World" news conference on Aug. 28, 1996, many agents estimated that the three-time U.S. Amateur champion might get $6 million a year in deals. IMG got twice that by bringing into the talks Nike, a company that in 1996 had very few golfers on staff and no golf equipment to sell. They were, as Johnston said, "the right people." At a stockholder meeting in 2000, shortly after Tiger's deal with Nike was increased to $20 million a year for five years, Phil Knight, the co-founder and then CEO, was asked if there weren't a better way for the company to spend $100 million. Knight replied simply: 'No.'"

"Five years later, Woods is on the verge of becoming golf's first $1 billion player, and perhaps the first billionaire to accumulate his wealth as an athlete."

"Woods is No. 1 among the Golf Digest 50, an all-encompassing world-earnings list that includes every dollar tour players earned on and off the golf course in 2005 (see accompanying chart), heading the list as he has every year since its inception in 2004. Woods earned almost $12 million in prize money last year and another $75 million off the course to increase his career income to more than a half-billion dollars."

"In little more than nine seasons as a professional, Woods has earned $66 million in prize money worldwide, some of it as unofficial earnings. Research by Golf Digest revealed that over that same period Woods has earned another $481.8 million in endorsements and appearance fees. Assuming Woods continues on the same earnings trajectory, Golf Digest projects that Woods will reach the $1 billion mark in career earnings by the end of 2010. According to financial experts, Woods' net worth should surpass $1 billion by 2013, if not sooner."

yitbos

143 posted on 10/11/2006 3:37:33 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds. " - Ayn Rand)
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To: bruinbirdman

Pro golf has alot of talent but very little personality these days. Most of the players are stiff and boring. Guys like Lee Trevino, Lanny Wadkins, Fuzzy Zoeller all brought something more than just a good swing to the game.


144 posted on 10/11/2006 3:39:18 PM PDT by Always Independent
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To: jammer
My disgust is with Mickelson (Lord, he also needs a bra)


145 posted on 10/11/2006 3:41:10 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: JonH
"Today, three top 10's a year will earn the player at least $750,000."

More than 83 on The Tour will make more than a million bucks.

#83 Jesper Parnevik $1,015,759.
#84 Craig Barlow $997,476
#85 Frank Lickliter $996,869
#86 Nick O'Hern $995,236

yitbos

146 posted on 10/11/2006 3:47:01 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds. " - Ayn Rand)
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To: Ditto

I've never had any interest in golf, but I think you're correct. You have to have some drama for a sport to be interesting, and the fact that there were several charismatic players competing made it interesting. The most popular time for boxing was when Ali, Foreman, Norton and Frazier were all fighting. The problem isn't Woods, it's that there isn't another charismatic player out there to challenge him, making a great duel.


147 posted on 10/11/2006 3:49:01 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (The most important thing is sincerity. Once you can fake that, everything else is easy.)
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To: Always Independent
"Pro golf has alot of talent but very little personality these days."

Money, TV, and celebrity status will do that "these days."

TV puts the spotlight on anyone with a PGA card. Remember the guy who sued the PGA so he could ride around on a golf cart? And he wasn't a senior.

yitbos

148 posted on 10/11/2006 3:53:08 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds. " - Ayn Rand)
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To: wagglebee
Actually, Norman makes some good points.

I don't watch nearly as much golf as I used to. Reasons:

Norman is right. The PGA is in danger of dying on the vine.
149 posted on 10/11/2006 3:53:23 PM PDT by Rum Tum Tugger
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To: wagglebee

I think it was Letterman who commented that in America our best rapper was white and best golfer black


150 posted on 10/11/2006 3:55:40 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA)
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To: bruinbirdman

Actually I was glad they eventually gave in and let him ride. He wasn't looking to gain an advantage and he wouldn't have received all the attention if the PGA didn'tmake an issue out of it. The guys I mentioned were winners too! Maybe not as much as Tiger and I stand in Awe of his talent. But those guys made the TV game fun to watch too.


151 posted on 10/11/2006 4:00:40 PM PDT by Always Independent
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To: Rum Tum Tugger
"They've changed the names of all the tournaments to stupid corporate names."

They changed the name of The Byron Nelson Open. He died.

yitbos

152 posted on 10/11/2006 4:01:34 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds. " - Ayn Rand)
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To: eyedigress
And how many mulligans?

Power hath its privileges.

153 posted on 10/11/2006 4:04:47 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (We are all foot soldiers in this War On Terror.)
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To: Always Independent
"The guys I mentioned were winners too!"

Payne Stewert, Ian Woosnan. David Duval, Mr. Yips. Jasper Parnivek, Mr. fashion statement.

Golf always has/had plenty of character and characters.

yitbos

154 posted on 10/11/2006 4:09:06 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds. " - Ayn Rand)
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To: bruinbirdman

Fascinating. Thanks for the information. Neither version of the story would really surprise me, or change my opinion of Mr. Singh at this distance.


155 posted on 10/11/2006 4:09:28 PM PDT by Tax-chick (If you believe you can forgive, you're right. If you believe you can't forgive, you're right.)
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To: bruinbirdman

Payne Stewart maybe but the others just good sticks.


156 posted on 10/11/2006 4:12:51 PM PDT by Always Independent
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To: MarineBrat

Do you know why it is called golf?

All the other 4 letter words were taken.


157 posted on 10/11/2006 4:14:43 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Dixie Yooper

Pinehurst #2 is probably the best course in the country and from what I've been told, Pebble Beach is the most beautiful. I've known a few people who played Augusta National and they say the "thrill" of playing there is simply incredible.


158 posted on 10/11/2006 4:28:18 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: bruinbirdman

I view endorsement contract figures with the same scepticism as I view sports contracts and per movie pay figures for actos. Each of them are inflated for maximum publicity.
If Golf Digest is correct, Tiger must have a tremendous tax accountant and agents who work for nothing.


159 posted on 10/11/2006 4:30:49 PM PDT by em2vn
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To: bruinbirdman

I view endorsement contract figures with the same scepticism as I view sports contracts and per movie pay figures for actos. Each of them are inflated for maximum publicity.
If Golf Digest is correct, Tiger must have a tremendous tax accountant and agents who work for nothing.


160 posted on 10/11/2006 4:30:51 PM PDT by em2vn
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