To: LeGrande
They may not know exactly who is on board
Then thats an obvious problem. If you have people able to fly around the Statue of Liberty at will without any ability to know who they are...thats a problem.
It is simply sad that you think that it is important to put a couple of phlanxes around the Statue of Liberty so that sight see'ers (sp) can't enjoy it.
There you go again. Sightseers can purchase a ticket on an authorized tourist plane with known pilots and security. Another fallacious argument. I put forward restrictions on aircraft in the airspace...you twist to be a restriction on tourists seeing the Statue of Liberty. Twisty, but not logic.
Hopefully it's just you. I fear that way to many people are willing to give up too much for a little perceived "safety."
And again, your personal entertainment at being able to fly around potential terrorist targets of national importance is not some huge assault on liberty and not too much to give up for protecting those icons. Buy a ticket if you want to see it. If you want to fly, do it elsewhere. Not a huge burden on liberty despite your wish to zoom the Statue.
To me the idea of protecting the Statue of liberty with a missile system or phalanx is repugnant on many different levels. Restricting freedom to protect a symbol that stands for freedom is idiotic. I would rather see a terrorist blow it up than lose any iota of freedom because of it.
I would prefer that you fly for fun elsewhere rather than see the Statue of Liberty blown up. Other readers will have to decide for themselves which is more important to them.
The day America takes our freedom away to protect the symbol of freedom is the day I am no longer an American.
This might make sense if the liberty we were talking about was you freedom to speak here or your freedom of religion or something actually critical. But the freedom we are talking about here is your ability to fly around the Statue of Liberty for fun. You are right now restricted from landing a helicopter for fun on the White House lawn. I do not consider that a huge imposition leading to the destruction of our glorious nation. You might characterize it that way, but it wouldn't be so.
To: Arkinsaw
And again, your personal entertainment at being able to fly around potential terrorist targets of national importance is not some huge assault on liberty and not too much to give up for protecting those icons. Buy a ticket if you want to see it. If you want to fly, do it elsewhere. Not a huge burden on liberty despite your wish to zoom the Statue.So every commercial airliner doing the "Potomac River Approach" to Dulles is to be perceived as a terrorist threat to the Pentagon?
1,861 posted on
10/11/2006 8:18:02 PM PDT by
BigSkyFreeper
(Karl Rove you magnificent bastard!)
To: Arkinsaw; LeGrande
" I do not consider that a huge imposition leading to the destruction of our glorious nation. "
Horrors ! The nation will fall if the copper lady loses her face ! ( Is that like the Ravens at the Tower of London or the monkeys on Gibraltar ? )
Since your restrictions offer NO protection whatsoever without your Phalanxes to back them up, and installation of these will not happen - Just what would you have really accomplished except to take away our liberty ?
BTW, will your tourist planes have on board security also, with secured cabins ?
1,866 posted on
10/11/2006 8:49:16 PM PDT by
RS
("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
To: Arkinsaw
There you go again. Sightseers can purchase a ticket on an authorized tourist plane with known pilots and security. Another fallacious argument. I put forward restrictions on aircraft in the airspace...you twist to be a restriction on tourists seeing the Statue of Liberty. Twisty, but not logic. H'm, first you put it completely off limits, with a Phalanx system guarding it, now you say it's OK to conduct tourist flights. Is the Phalanx supposed to shoot them out of the sky? How is the Phalanx operator supposed to know which are the bad guys and which are the good guys with 100% accuracy? And you have the audacity to say that my logic is twisted? LOL
This might make sense if the liberty we were talking about was you freedom to speak here or your freedom of religion or something actually critical. But the freedom we are talking about here is your ability to fly around the Statue of Liberty for fun. You are right now restricted from landing a helicopter for fun on the White House lawn. I do not consider that a huge imposition leading to the destruction of our glorious nation. You might characterize it that way, but it wouldn't be so.
So you are saying my freedom to travel freely is less important than my freedom to travel to church on Sunday? Or to travel to a protest rally? Yes sir, Comrade!
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson